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IT 21st July 2011 09:39 PM

The S4, one week in....
 
Almost to the hour, I've now had this motor for 7 whole days. I spent the first 3 hours hating it, scheming a multitude of ways to move it on quickly and quietly, but now, a week on, things are much different.....

I still find it small, underspecced and a bit feeble, function wise, compared the A8 - I've tried several times to put more than one thing into the door pockets, and failed. I dont think they're really pockets, more a lip, somewhere to balance something carefully. A well to do 8 owner with a wallet full of cash can pop it his (or her) fully recessed door pocket, and close it, knowing full well opening the door in the harshest of gales will see every hard earned penny retained. Not in the S4 though, you're more likely to find notes falling out whilst you're still driving, never mind waiting to open the door.


I discovered I have to use the ashtray for my loose change, as the handy coin areas in the 8 are no more, and my mobile phone and wallet now have to live in the armrest, which leaves nowhere for my drink - 600ml pepsi max bottles - which just wont stay in the single cup holder..... Hmmm. My huge scale inch thick philips road atlas that I carry with me religously in the front seat pockets, wont fit in the S4 seat pockets at all. Its a non starter, and theres nowhere else to put it.

Never mind, I dont care. Genuinely.

After a week, the s4 is averaging just under 24mpg on its all time average, and it made it to Birmingham and back with enough left for a spirited drive when I left the A1 on the way home. The A8 in contrast with basically the same engine managed less than 21mpg, and wasnt anything like as surefooted or fun. 3mpg doesnt sound much, but thats nearly 15% better economy....

I was worried my umpteen-way adjustable A8 sports seats would be missed when I was forced to manage with the basic functionality of the S4 ones, but really, they're just fine, nice and comfy, firm, but not too much.

The RNS-E is slow compared to the MMI, and it doesnt pop up out of the dash, and I cant fiddle with numerous on board computer settings, but somehow I'm not overly bothered as its less to go wrong. Its less distraction, and leaves more time for gripping onto the wheel and grinning.

I absolutely, 100% cant believe how pleased I am this car has the tiptronic box - I intially avoided it, but im so pleased I didnt. The gear changes are uber-smooth, yet so much faster and sportier than the A8. It wasnt at all a strain to get stuck in some slow moving traffic, where the manual would have been a ball-ache I guess.

and sports mode.

Well.

Chuff me. I cant get over it. Its basically the same engine, same gearbox, smaller body, but made out of heavier metal. It just shouldnt be this much more fun. Its like everytime you stop at the lights, some bloke out in front carries on marching, only your car is tied on to him with some bungie cord. The light goes green and wahooooooa, next thing you know you're slamming on for the car in front again. I find myself willing lights to turn red so I get poll position... :rolleyes:

The last time I experienced this much willingness, V8 growl and attention from onlookers, I was in the RS6. This isnt quite as loud as that, and it is 0.7 seconds slower 0-60, but, only 0.7 seconds.... I can live with that, given that I get in the region of 50% more MPG than an RS6 driver... +++

+ it fits places. I'm finding round town I get A to B with less stress as I fit through gaps, parked cars for example, where I no longer have to wait for the other person. I dont have to circle the car park looking for a big space where I can park, and open the doors.

I love 8's, I always have, but sometimes a change is nice, and this is really, really nice. I'd like to think I work towards maybe a 2008 S8 sometime in the not too distant future, but right now, I'm enjoying the present... :D

A8 has had its number plate change sent off, and will be sold soon. Its been a great car, and I dont think I could have wished for a better example of a D3 to own for the past 9 months, but I dont carry passengers, I dont need all that space, and I'm just not going to miss it anything like as much as I thought...... :cool:


P.S. I'm enjoying screen wash. That beautiful, slightly intoxicating waft of screen wash when you have a nice strong solution in your washer bottle and you give the screen a good squirt. I missed that. Fortunately, the auto recirc is an option on the S4, which nobody seems to buy, so if you want to enjoy fresh air (mostly) you have to leave it on fresh, and take whatever else comes in. Diesel fumes for example have become strangely desirable, gives an open top natural airy feel to driving. Any Audi with auto recirc will switch to recirc whenever it gets dirty outside or you touch the windscreen washers, hence many of us had been deprived of this smell for a good few years now....... +++

tonupkid 21st July 2011 10:11 PM

Does the 8's ventilation really go into recirculate mode when you squirt the screen wash, because I too have been missing that smell, since getting an 8.
I've had 27 mpg out of mine on a run, I'm surprised your 4.2 was giving so little.

Glad your enjoying your 'motoring holiday' and thanks for the great write ups

CliveH 22nd July 2011 07:12 AM

Nice update Ian +++

Any comparison of a 4 against an 8 will fall short in the expanse and luxuries departments, although as you say the smaller car does have some benefits in town driving and parking scenarios.

But compare a B7 to a B5 or earlier S2 and it really is streets ahead.

Interesting comment on the fuel consumption as my 'long term' (about 3 months since I reset it) average in the B6 is just 20.6 and I'm lucky to get more than 22 on a long (and 'sensible') run. As it's the same engine, it must either be something to do with tiptronic vs manual or my dreadful driving! :rolleyes:

IT 22nd July 2011 08:26 AM

I do the occasional long run, with quite a lot of short runs - My rented house is about 2 miles from my renovation house, so lots short runs, hence why the A8 struggled a bit I think.

The S4 was clocking up high 20's on the motorway, and like the 8, 30 is achievable with some modest driving.

Its hard to explain, but the S4 seems to free-wheel more willingly than any 8, so on a bit of downhill, or back off the throttle, and the mpg seems quite a bit higher.... I cant add any real science to that statement, but thats gut feel right now.... Not having adaptive cruise, arguably may be helping also....

Tiptronic is quoted in the brochures as having better MPG than the manual, which is quite unusual, but does seem to be the case..... +++

Curtis 22nd July 2011 11:12 AM

reason i started liking audi's is all thanks to the b5 a4.theres just something about a4's .they not most spacious but to drive they awesome.

A8 Doc 22nd July 2011 01:16 PM

Just get the tiptronic serviced :) Highly recommend that.

CliveH 22nd July 2011 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curtis (Post 25222)
reason i started liking audi's is all thanks to the b5 a4.theres just something about a4's .they not most spacious but to drive they awesome.

That's where it all started for me too - A4 B5 2.6 quattro +++

CliveH 22nd July 2011 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IT (Post 25211)
I do the occasional long run, with quite a lot of short runs - My rented house is about 2 miles from my renovation house, so lots short runs, hence why the A8 struggled a bit I think.

The S4 was clocking up high 20's on the motorway, and like the 8, 30 is achievable with some modest driving.

Its hard to explain, but the S4 seems to free-wheel more willingly than any 8, so on a bit of downhill, or back off the throttle, and the mpg seems quite a bit higher.... I cant add any real science to that statement, but thats gut feel right now.... Not having adaptive cruise, arguably may be helping also....

Tiptronic is quoted in the brochures as having better MPG than the manual, which is quite unusual, but does seem to be the case..... +++

Well I just got back from a trip out with MrsH to Meadowhell with cruise set at 70 most of the way and we reached the dizzy heights of 24.9mpg! :)

I've never seen anything approaching 30, maybe just my heavy right foot, but seems the tip is better on fuel than the manual.

A8 Doc 23rd July 2011 07:53 AM

MAF sensor Clive, changed mine on the A8 when I saw those figures at those speeds and got another 3mpg :)

Worth a quick clean with Carb spray.

CliveH 24th July 2011 06:55 AM

Thanks Doc.

The MAF was healthy when we last checked but certainly worth a look +++


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