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Simon Wallwork 6th October 2021 12:40 PM

Cat rattle.
 
I hit a pothole yesterday and there was a rattle afterwards, which persists.
Pretty sure it's from one of the cats.
I changed one on this car before, and the mechanic silenced the rattle with a hammer, but I still ended up fitting the oem cat.

Now, I'm in Bulgaria- and emissions don't matter here. The car is running well and I'll certainly give the thing a whack and see if it helps.

If I were to remove the cat, and poke out all the enviro-gubbins contained within, will it cause the car any problem?

Car is a 2000 model FL S8 btw.

Adrian E 6th October 2021 06:50 PM

If completely removed you’re likely to get EML on as the post cat lambda probes will be seeing a rich mixture. That’s an MOT fail these days, although suspect plenty of dodgy testers remain that will emissions test another vehicle to get around it (god knows why as they’re putting their licence at risk)

Simon Wallwork 8th October 2021 09:53 AM

Hi Adrian.
I'm looking for a cheap fix here.
We are in Bulgaria, having an EML on is no problem, except to me. You know what we are like!
So, I just need it to run, which it does, and function normally- no lights.

Two possible things I came up with.

1. Remove cat, give it a shake and loose bits might fall out- thus stopping the rattle?
2. I saw a youtube where a guy located the bad bit by listening very closely, then driving a self tapper in to hold it.

Or I could just keep the radio on....:ROFL:

Adrian E 8th October 2021 10:56 AM

Yeah, I understand +++ was thinking about the scenario when you bring it back to the UK. With the EML light on, usual practice is for the ECU to default to a 'safe' map. It shouldn't cause you any problems as it won't go so lean due to what the lambda sensors are showing post-cats as to cause any damage - it will have been programmed to recognise the most likely scenario where pre-cat lambdas look fine and post-cat are way off to recognise the cat is the cause.

To stop EML without cats involves flashing the ECU to remove the post cat lambdas

Simon Wallwork 9th October 2021 01:42 PM

Well, it's stopped.

I'm not getting too excited about this, but it would be good to know what others have done about this, apart from change the Cat.

I may as well post my own previous on this.
I came out one morning years ago, started the car and got this death rattle, which seemed associated with rpm.
I had to go to work, so after checking the oil, I drove very gently- thinking, 'Me car is fooked!'.
After work I took it to 'A for Audi' in Clydebank, fearing the worst.
Andy put it up on the ramp, engine rattling like a *******.
He smacked the cat with a mashie, and the noise stopped dead.

I've rarely been more impressed, in a garage.:ROFL:

HPsauce 9th October 2021 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon Wallwork (Post 167019)
I'm not getting too excited about this, but it would be good to know what others have done about this, apart from change the Cat.

I changed my cat (just one side needed doing) eventually, though by the time I got round to it the rattling had almost gone.

Turns out that the matrix inside had pretty much disintegrated and had almost entirely been blown out! So the exchange return didn't net them much in the way of rare elements.

Despite one side of the engine missing the cat I didn't get any warning light and it sailed through the MOT emissions just fine. 2002 build FL S8.

Simon Wallwork 10th October 2021 11:49 AM

Thanks HP.
Good to know!

I shall follow your advice for the time being.


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