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MikkiJayne 26th February 2020 02:13 PM

Evapo-rust
 
I've mentioned Evapo-rust in a couple of threads today so thought I would expand on it. Its a relatively new to the UK rust-eating solution that is, as far as I can tell, magic. Its not acidic, not alkaline, not phospor-based, biodegradable, safe to handle, and non-toxic, yet somehow rusty steel comes out completely clean, usually after just an overnight soak. Scrape off any chunky rust beforehand obviously so it has less work to do.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon...._AC_SX466_.jpg

Available on Amazon here, it comes in various sizes but the only one which makes financial sense is the gallon. Pour it in to a plastic container and let it do its thing. It doesn't affect paint, rubber, plastics or aluminium.

I can find nothing online about how this stuff works (ergo magic), but its rapidly becoming ubiquitous. Almost all the youtube automotive or engineering channels I watch are using it for cleaning or restoring tools, car parts, machinery etc. I've bought two gallons so far, cleaned loads of things with it, and its still working. There's a bunch of sediment in the bottom of the container which I decant every now and then, and its changed from yellow to green, but its still as effective as it was when it was new.

The gel is less effective and substantially more expensive so I don't use that much, but if something can be dunked in a bucket, game on +++

Dezzy 26th February 2020 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 155955)
I've mentioned Evapo-rust in a couple of threads today so thought I would expand on it. Its a relatively new to the UK rust-eating solution that is, as far as I can tell, magic. Its not acidic, not alkaline, not phospor-based, biodegradable, safe to handle, and non-toxic, yet somehow rusty steel comes out completely clean, usually after just an overnight soak. Scrape off any chunky rust beforehand obviously so it has less work to do.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon...._AC_SX466_.jpg

Available on Amazon here, it comes in various sizes but the only one which makes financial sense is the gallon. Pour it in to a plastic container and let it do its thing. It doesn't affect paint, rubber, plastics or aluminium.

I can find nothing online about how this stuff works (ergo magic), but its rapidly becoming ubiquitous. Almost all the youtube automotive or engineering channels I watch are using it for cleaning or restoring tools, car parts, machinery etc. I've bought two gallons so far, cleaned loads of things with it, and its still working. There's a bunch of sediment in the bottom of the container which I decant every now and then, and its changed from yellow to green, but its still as effective as it was when it was new.

The gel is less effective and substantially more expensive so I don't use that much, but if something can be dunked in a bucket, game on +++

Does it work on Range Rovers

David's8 26th February 2020 02:54 PM

Only if you can get the Range Rover in a bucket Dezzy. But if its that far gone you can probably get it in a bucket :ROFL:

steamship 26th February 2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MikkiJayne (Post 155955)
Available on Amazon here, it comes in various sizes but the only one which makes financial sense is the gallon. Pour it in to a plastic container and let it do its thing. It doesn't affect paint, rubber, plastics or aluminium.

Watched a few YouTube videos about this stuff, and seems very impressive, so ordered some. Anyone wanting to save a little on cost (like me) can also find it on the following site:

https://www.thompsonsltd.co.uk/qevp5...r-soluble.html

It's listed there at £21.59 (ignore the silly RRP they give), and because I live in NI, I always get stung for additional shipping charges, so I always shop around.

David's8 26th February 2020 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by steamship (Post 155961)
Watched a few YouTube videos about this stuff, and seems very impressive, so ordered some. Anyone wanting to save a little on cost (like me) can also find it on the following site:

https://www.thompsonsltd.co.uk/qevp5...r-soluble.html

It's listed there at £21.59 (ignore the silly RRP they give), and because I live in NI, I always get stung for additional shipping charges, so I always shop around.

And, its also for 5ltrs for £21.99 and not 1 US Gal (3.78ltrs) for £29.99 on the Amazon site.+++
The MSDS Attached) doesnt give its composition - just has it as a "chelator/detergent" - but it does seem to be remarkably benign for something that eats rust.:Confused:

steamship 26th February 2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by David's8 (Post 155963)
And, its also for 5ltrs for £21.99 and not 1 US Gal (3.78ltrs) for £29.99 on the Amazon site.+++

Now how did I miss that! :rolleyes: Must get the eyes checked. Oddly enough, I came across an Irish site that was advertising it as "3.78 litres (1 UK gallon)".

MikkiJayne 26th February 2020 08:04 PM

Good spot on the 5 litre one +++

I've got a brake caliper bracket soaking overnight for a before/after shot :)

moltuae 27th February 2020 07:51 AM

Thanks for the tip MJ. +++


I'm guessing that whatever is in the stuff likes oxygen (even more than iron does) and is able to react with the oxygen in the iron, removing it and therefore reversing the rusting process.

But presumably that would make it react with the oxygen in the air too, causing it to become saturated if not kept in a sealed container? .... unless it somehow reacts only with certain oxides ...

David's8 27th February 2020 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by moltuae (Post 155970)
Thanks for the tip MJ. +++


I'm guessing that whatever is in the stuff likes oxygen (even more than iron does) and is able to react with the oxygen in the iron, removing it and therefore reversing the rusting process.

But presumably that would make it react with the oxygen in the air too, causing it to become saturated if not kept in a sealed container? .... unless it somehow reacts only with certain oxides ...

I think the "magic" explanation is better Mark :ROFL:

I think the explanation lies with it being described as a "Chelator". Chelation is a type of bonding of ions and molecules to metal ions. It involves the formation or presence of two or more separate coordinate bonds between a polydentate (multiple bonded) ligand and a single central atom. These ligands are called chelants, chelators, chelating agents, or sequestering agents. They are usually organic compounds.
Chelation is useful in applications such as providing nutritional supplements, in chelation therapy to remove toxic metals from the body, as contrast agents in MRI scanning, in manufacturing using homogeneous catalysts, in chemical water treatment to assist in the removal of metals, and in fertilizers. (Wikipedia explanation ....... not mine!!)

MikkiJayne 27th February 2020 08:20 AM

So by that description, it likes iron even more than oxygen does, and is able to extract it from the iron oxide therefore removing the rust. If you leave things in it too long they get a black film over the top which needs washing off. This is especially pronounced with cast iron with a high carbon content. I wonder if once the rust is gone it then starts trying to remove iron molecules from the object itself, and in the case of cast, it leaves the carbon behind?


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