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notorious 26th August 2013 10:23 PM

Retrofitting radio controlled clock
 
A8s were equipped with radio controlled clock. Clock is synched with long wave time/date transmitter in Frankfurt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCF77).

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-Dcf_weite.jpg

Benefits are obvious -- clock is always right and no more worries with adjusting clock by one hour for daylight saving. In radio controlled clock mode we have radio antenna mast symbol displayed:

http://www.vagcom.org/wp-content/upl...k-module-3.jpg

UK cars didn't come with this feature because, I think, transmitter always sends CET time (either UTC+1 or UTC+2 depending on daylight saving time) and UK is, as always, a little bit different:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Europe.svg.png

But we have functionality to adjust time by one hour once the clock is in radio controlled mode. This feature was specifically designed for those who drove out of CET time area.

When I saw Goran's new LHD manual car from Germany I decided to try to retrofit this feature. Here's how receiver looks like. It comes with wires and 3-pin electrical connector that connects directly to unused socket on the back of instrument cluster, made specifically for that receiver.

http://as8.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=61504

Additionally, we'll need to order bracket and 3 screws that cost pennies:

http://as8.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=61505

On FL D2s standard receiver location is under the dash:

http://as8.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=61563

http://as8.ru/forum/download/file.php?id=61564

I will keep this thread updated when I finish installation.

Conan_the_Librarian 27th August 2013 08:34 PM

+++:love:
Loving your work.

awolfinsheepsclothes 27th August 2013 10:26 PM

Nice work I did wonder about this feature

notorious 6th September 2013 10:10 AM

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Update: This is very easy plug and play installation.

All you need to do is to plug receiver into instrument cluster from behind.
Then wait a couple of days and you'll see antenna mast symbol. This means that your clock is now in radio controlled mode.
In this mode you can't adjust minutes, but you can adjust hours. By this you're effectively telling instrument cluster the delta
between your local time and the CET time in Frankfurt.

And you don't need to remove dashboard for that. You can only remove lower trim where your knees are
and there's just enough space to connect electrical connector from the back of instrument cluster via removed knee trim opening.

I found that reception in the standard receiver location under centre of the dash is not very good perhaps because I have a-thermal heated windscreen.
Decided to secure the receiver elsewhere in the car, perhaps behind the lower right panel where most of electrical fuses are.
Undecided about exact location yet.

Pictures!

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1378462127

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1378462127

To be continued ...

notorious 6th September 2013 10:23 AM

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I highlighted the place where you need to look for connector if you access via removed knee panel.

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1378462730

View from behind the cluster (this is picture of PF cluster, but it doesn't matter):

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1378463349

Also, behind the cluster there is standard recess for the radio clock receiver! It can be nicely secured there with 2 bolts from my first post. But Audi decided not to mount it there. Perhaps I should try that recess!

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/attachmen...1&d=1378462996

notorious 6th September 2013 10:32 AM

you will need to tell cluster that radio controlled clock is now connected. This is done with VAGCOM / VCDS.

Select adaptation channel 19. The lower bit should be changed from 0 to 1.

After installation wait at least 24 hours. Antenna mast symbol will appear during night hours and clock will be adjusted during night hours too.

Adrian E 6th September 2013 11:16 AM

That's very cool :)

Are these common enough bits to find on German ebay, if it was more or less standard fit across the '8 range on the Continent?

ETA - do you have the part number for the receiver?

notorious 6th September 2013 11:44 AM

For D2: (have no idea about D3 -- just use ETKA)

4D0 919 145 -- for D2 chassis number up to 4D-X-015 000
4D0 919 145 A -- for D2 chassis number after F 4D-Y-000 001 <-- I've got this one

There are receivers for other Audi models, but I think the only difference is the length of cable supplied and shape of plastic box. I believe they all work the same way. For instance, we have 8N0 919 145 receiver from Audi TT and it looks like this:

http://www.vagcom.org/wp-content/upl...k-module-1.jpg



Bracket and bolts for D2 if you need them:

1 x 4D1 919 159 bracket
1 x N 013 96 49 screw to fix bracket to chassis
2 x N 013 95 32 screws to fix receiver to bracket or to recess behind the instrument cluster


>> Are these common enough bits to find on German ebay, if it was more or less standard fit across the '8 range on the Continent?

I think all A8s supplied to countries in CET time zone (see the map in my first post) had this receiver installed as standard.

P.S. If you want to search German ebay just type "Audi Funkuhrmodul" or "Audi Funkuhr".
You need the version with wire coming out of it which ends with 4 pin electric connector.

Adrian E 6th September 2013 11:57 AM

Brilliant - thanks for the details :)

I find it a pain adjusting the clock on mine, even more so since it has to be done via the instrument cluster to update the RNS-E over CAN

Adrian E 6th September 2013 12:40 PM

How successful is the receiver at picking up a signal if the car is garaged? Presume it works OK since I think yours is garaged overnight too?

The radio bit is £59 new from TPS - bracket and screws come to less than a fiver


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