Thanks Ranj i will be sad to see her go but after much debate im quite sure the W12 will put a smile on my face, its a bargain of a car really and i dont want to have to break her just to get the money back from the car, i could be tight and sell it with no quads and put the standard 17" wheels back on ect as the quads cost me over 1k and the Rs6 wheels were 400 then putting continental tyres on was not cheap, but im not being greedy for what the car is i have asked for £3,850 ono and to be honest i think its a dam load of car for that kind of money Hands down