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Old 6th July 2009, 11:10 PM
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I'm new here, have recently bought a 1998 A8 4.2 Quattro, loving the car in general but recently picked up a steering wheel (sansairbag) on eBay. It's a beautiful polished wood finish, with the 3-spoke Sport middle.

Having checked the part number, an Audi dealer tells me that the wheel is from a 2001 A4 Sport. They were pessimistic about it fitting the A8.

If I were to purchase the appropriate Airbag unit for the wheel (not from Audi, obviously... £600) then is the steering wheel wiring likely to be completely incompatible? I genuinely can't see that it would change much between models but stand to be corrected

I badly want the wheel to fit because it's the right wood for the car and looks amazing... But I would rather like a functioning driver airbag too
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Old 7th July 2009, 11:54 AM
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I would love to see a picture of the wheel!
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Old 7th July 2009, 12:25 PM
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Hi,

I'm new here, have recently bought a 1998 A8 4.2 Quattro, loving the car in general but recently picked up a steering wheel (sansairbag) on eBay. It's a beautiful polished wood finish, with the 3-spoke Sport middle.

Having checked the part number, an Audi dealer tells me that the wheel is from a 2001 A4 Sport. They were pessimistic about it fitting the A8.

If I were to purchase the appropriate Airbag unit for the wheel (not from Audi, obviously... £600) then is the steering wheel wiring likely to be completely incompatible? I genuinely can't see that it would change much between models but stand to be corrected

I badly want the wheel to fit because it's the right wood for the car and looks amazing... But I would rather like a functioning driver airbag too

I'm 99% sure it will fit, as all the VAG wheels from that era should be the same. You should find wheels from Lamborghini fit too

The standard wood wheels come without tiptronic controls, so there might be some slight wiring differences, but fundamentaly as long as the spline is the same size, you should be on a winner. Its easy enough to whip off your current airbag and steering wheel to check...
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Old 7th July 2009, 06:40 PM
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I'm 99% sure it will fit, as all the VAG wheels from that era should be the same. You should find wheels from Lamborghini fit too

The standard wood wheels come without tiptronic controls, so there might be some slight wiring differences, but fundamentaly as long as the spline is the same size, you should be on a winner. Its easy enough to whip off your current airbag and steering wheel to check...
Thanks for that. Essentially I wanted to canvass opinion before sourcing the airbag component, since that'll be the expensive bit. If there's a fair-to-middling chance of it fitting then I will go ahead and buy it.

Audi were simply taking the default option that it wouldn't fit, because there is no A8 specification on the wheel/airbag but I can't see that the wiring would be wildly different. I don't have tiptronic steering wheel controls ATM anyway.

Here's the wheel...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=270393792868

The pictures don't really do it justice though. The rim is highly polished walnut, no blemishes whatsoever. It really suits the car. Worked out at £21 including postage too

I've had a couple of good eBay purchases recently- Also picked up a set of new front discs and pads for £35 posted.

What's the consensus then- Spend £100 on an airbag unit and see if it'll fit?
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Old 7th July 2009, 08:21 PM
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What's the consensus then- Spend £100 on an airbag unit and see if it'll fit?
For the sake of three screws, you can check the steering wheel fits before buying the airbag ??

Disconnect the battery first (saves airbag warning light coming on)

There are two screw holes on the underside of the airbag, they are Torx T30's. Undo these and airbag will come loose. Disconnect the wires and remove.

Then you are onto the main screw holding the steering wheel on, which is a large multi-point bolt, which can actually be removed using a Torx of the correct size, about a T50 / T55 off the top of my head.

Remove the steering wheel, and try the other one in its place.....

If it fits, put your old one back on for now, and source an airbag
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I wonder if this will fit and wire up OK?

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=220448357613
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Thanks for that. Essentially I wanted to canvass opinion before sourcing the airbag component, since that'll be the expensive bit. If there's a fair-to-middling chance of it fitting then I will go ahead and buy it.

Audi were simply taking the default option that it wouldn't fit, because there is no A8 specification on the wheel/airbag but I can't see that the wiring would be wildly different. I don't have tiptronic steering wheel controls ATM anyway.

Here's the wheel...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=270393792868

The pictures don't really do it justice though. The rim is highly polished walnut, no blemishes whatsoever. It really suits the car. Worked out at £21 including postage too

I've had a couple of good eBay purchases recently- Also picked up a set of new front discs and pads for £35 posted.

What's the consensus then- Spend £100 on an airbag unit and see if it'll fit?
Hmmmmmm the airbag shape looks reminiscent of an S8 3 spoke sports wheel airbag...............
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1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing!
1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard
2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion.
2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse.
2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter.

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1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex.
2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on.
1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8.
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Old 7th July 2009, 09:31 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. I am 99.9% sure the wheel will physically fit on the column, and Audi seem to suggest same, it's purely the airbag wiring issue I am concerned about.

Which I won't be able to check unless I get hold of one!

At worst, I'm sure I could sell it for £100-odd as a complete unit with airbag to some A4 nut...

Any airbags for a 8eo 41909 1bc 73g lying around Ian?
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