RNS-E Retrofit into a D2....

[goglawrie]

Originally Posted by Adrian E

Ah well, since you asked

Press the phone button on the rns-e

Make sure Bluetooth is on on your phone and it's set to discoverable if needed

Press setup on rns-e (must be set to phone 1st!)

Set a Bluetooth pin which can be whatever you want eg 1111, then your phone should pick up a device with Audi in the name

That should be job done

got phone working great does it upload your phone contacts to it menu ?? thanks

[goglawrie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Hi and welcome to the forum. We normaly like pics but in this case you don't need to as the 8 you have is known well.

But if you take a picture of what you're looking at i'm sure we could help or at least Amar anyway.

If you plug it in to vag com it'll soon tell you if it is the seat air bag. There is a uk company called gendan see http://www.gendan.co.uk/product_VAGUSB.html can have you plugged in for 20 notes

sorry im going to take pics on friday as i told ian car was negllitcted i need it sorted it will take some time but i want the restore it again just the way it was when ian first done it

[PsYcHe]

I'll probably not be passing that way until w/c 9th, so let me know if you'll be over this way for me to give it a once over.

[Singh]

I've sent you a PM, but please elaborate on how you feel the car has been 'neglected' as I don't want it to reflect badly on me when I've only let the very best specialists and genuine parts near that car. The only thing that happened once it left Ian's hands was improve, 4x Michelin pilot sport tyres (the most expensive available - not some budgets) it was detailed and the final S8 bits added. Ben changed the cambelt/watrerpump/thermo and did a service and full health check and it was sold straight after, iirc all it needed was brakes which I made the new owner fully aware of.

[jayzee]

Originally Posted by Singh

I've sent you a PM, but please elaborate on how you feel the car has been 'neglected' as I don't want it to reflect badly on me when I've only let the very best specialists and genuine parts near that car. The only thing that happened once it left Ian's hands was improve, 4x Michelin pilot sport tyres (the most expensive available - not some budgets) it was detailed and the final S8 bits added. Ben changed the cambelt/watrerpump/thermo and did a service and full health check and it was sold straight after, iirc all it needed was brakes which I made the new owner fully aware of.

How can it Amar? Between you and the current owner, the car had another owner. A lot can happen in the short space of a few months mate.

[HPsauce]

Back squarely onto the original topic of this thread..........

Originally Posted by IT

..........diversity switcher. I'm no expert, but I believe it basically takes the aerial input from all 4 aerials on the rear screen, selects the best signal and squirts that out to the tuner. It also supplies the audio headunit with its radio aerial feed:....................

type A tuner has round push fit coax connectors and as yet I havn't been able to identify their name.

I think I can answer those 2 questions, in reverse order:

2. They are WICLIC connectors

1. I think the diversity unit is PURELY for radio diversity.
There are several versions of 4D0 035 530 from the original with no suffix and then from A to F (at least). They are for use with different combination aerials covering a mix of radio (always?), GPS and TV.
I think the basic function of ALL versions is to choose the best aerial for radio reception and feed that to the radio lead.
If TV is involved the 4 TV aerials are effectively in "pass-through" mode, including quite likely phantom power to the aerials (and to run the unit) and TV diversity is handled in the TV tuner - that's why the TV variants have 4 in and 4 out (plus radio/GPS).

So in the installation above I suspect that just reterminating the cables at the TV tuner would have sufficed - WICLIC to SMB adapters don't seem to exist.

The only slight doubt I have on this is that the later model of diversity unit has a separate power supply so the later TV tuner may not provide the required phantom power feed up the aerial cable; easily tested though.

[terion]

Hi.

Sorry for bringing this topic back to life, but every now and then someone will follow this writeup.

So, I have installed an RNS-E in an European (German import, now lives among polar bears) D2 from 1999/2000, but canbus isn't working with RNS-E. VCDS tells me from the instrument side that there is a one wire operation. The navi/radio tells me that canbus isn't working at all.

I did tap into the green connector behind the instruments, low can on pin 21 (orange/brown) and 22 high can (orange/violet). Connected to RNS-E pin 9 (H) and 10(L) on power connector D.

Originally there is a RNS-D installed, which is working as it should.
Also, I cannot find any TMC module behind the instrument panel, only a "Telephone Module" 4D0919895c, with no antenna connections, nor any can-bus connections to or from. So where my TMC is located then, I dont know. I just cut the orange wires from pin 21 and 22, so the only thing connected was the RNS-E, but still no canbus connection between them.

Anyone having any ideas that might help? The RNS-E is working as it should in an A6 with RNS-E already installed.

[notorious]

>> I cannot find any TMC module behind the instrument panel,
>> only a "Telephone Module" 4D0919895c, with no antenna connections,
>> nor any can-bus connections to or from

The module 4D0919895C **is** the TMC module according to ETKA.
Why do you think it is a "Telephone Module"? I'm surprised it wasn't connected to anything as your existing RNS-D worn't work properly without it.

What other devices you have had on infotainment CAN other than RNS-D? If you connected RNS-E directly to instrument cluster pins with your own twisted pair you effectively bypassed all other infotainment CAN devices, leaving them disconnected from infotainment CAN.


Edit:

Oh now I see why you call it Telephone Module -- because of the sticker.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Audi-A8-4D-T...-/400460277578

I still claim this it TMC module regardless of sticker...

[terion]

Originally Posted by notorious

>> I cannot find any TMC module behind the instrument panel,
>> only a "Telephone Module" 4D0919895c, with no antenna connections,
>> nor any can-bus connections to or from

The module 4D0919895C **is** the TMC module according to ETKA.
Why do you think it is a "Telephone Module"? I'm surprised it wasn't connected to anything as your existing RNS-D worn't work properly without it.

What other devices you have had on infotainment CAN other than RNS-D? If you connected RNS-E directly to instrument cluster pins with your own twisted pair you effectively bypassed all other infotainment CAN devices, leaving them disconnected from infotainment CAN.

If you internet search for that vag-number, you'll find on some ebay lists, pictures of this unit. It has no aerial inputs/outputs. When I try to ohm out pin 21 and 22 from green connector, or from RNS-D canbus 13 and 26, none of these are connected to this Telephone Module. The reason I think it is a Telephone Module, well, it says Telephone Module on a label on this thing
Also the 12 pin connector to this thing is all wired up. Means, it goes 12 wires to/from this thing.

Anyway, I have bypassed all other devices on the infotainment CAN, yes, as you mentioned, leaving only the RNS-E connected. Still no luck.
When connected to RNS-D, just all the original equipment like CDC, and a Version A tuner, but the tuner, of course is not connected to RNS-E, just wont fit but it might still be powered? Would this mess things up? Tuner should be connected to RNS-D can, not infotainment can, or does it have can at all? Im thinking out loud here, hence all the question marks.

Edit: Ok, from the sticker, hehe, yes. This one you linked to, doesn't have any antenna connections...

[mannyo]

There are several versions of this module,

I guess the one with Telefon written on the side simply handled the phone to instrument cluster comms if the the car was original sold with a phone but no navigation system.