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Old 22nd January 2020, 05:06 PM
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If you look at the design you can see why, it's not a "typical" bladed fan that could indeed run backwards, it's basically a centrifugal pump with vanes in the cylinder that "catch" the air and make it more efficient.
Running backwards it's still a centrifugal pump but the vanes make it extremely inefficient. And I expect the geometry of the air intake and outlet ducts contribute to making air only flow one way.
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Old 23rd January 2020, 09:51 AM
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As my fan has been playing up for ages now (nearly 3 years on and off, see: http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13248 ) I've ordered one of these (from Poland!).
They're a Chinese copy obviously but I'll keep the original anyway and see if it can be refurbished.
I might also look at constructing an "adapter" for the lead, rather than cutting the plug off the old one. Though it might be possible to just disassemble the plug if the contacts at the end of the wires are the same design.
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e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
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Old 23rd January 2020, 04:39 PM
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Surprisingly no, it blows in to the cabin still, but only about 10% of its normal airflow, leaving one very puzzled as to why the fan is making loads of noise but there's nothing coming from the vents.
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If you look at the design you can see why, it's not a "typical" bladed fan that could indeed run backwards, it's basically a centrifugal pump with vanes in the cylinder that "catch" the air and make it more efficient.
Running backwards it's still a centrifugal pump but the vanes make it extremely inefficient. And I expect the geometry of the air intake and outlet ducts contribute to making air only flow one way.
That makes sense now that you say it. Is there an easy way to test without taking the car apart? Specified air flow at a certain fan speed or something along those lines?

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As my fan has been playing up for ages now (nearly 3 years on and off, see: http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=13248 ) I've ordered one of these (from Poland!).
They're a Chinese copy obviously but I'll keep the original anyway and see if it can be refurbished.
I might also look at constructing an "adapter" for the lead, rather than cutting the plug off the old one. Though it might be possible to just disassemble the plug if the contacts at the end of the wires are the same design.
Unfortunately, they are different. I had the same thought. The stock D2 connector is a pin connector, whereas the D3 connector is a blade type connector.
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Old 23rd January 2020, 05:05 PM
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Unfortunately, they are different. I had the same thought. The stock D2 connector is a pin connector, whereas the D3 connector is a blade type connector.
Thanks for that, I'll have a good look at them both when the parts arrive and decide what to do. I have various spare connectors of that type anyway.
IIRC the connectors are all fairly accessible with the bonnet open so I should be able to test any adapter quite easily before fitting and make sure it's spinning the right way.
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Old 23rd January 2020, 06:14 PM
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Suppose it’s too optimistic to assume d3 wipers would fit the d2 as well? because that would solve a whole heap of spare parts issue ��
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Old 24th January 2020, 05:49 PM
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Suppose it’s too optimistic to assume d3 wipers would fit the d2 as well? because that would solve a whole heap of spare parts issue ��
I'd be shocked if the entire assembly is the same, but it may be that parts of it are the same? There's a D3 at my local junkyard currently. I may go take a look at it again.
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Old 24th January 2020, 06:44 PM
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Suppose it’s too optimistic to assume d3 wipers would fit the d2 as well? because that would solve a whole heap of spare parts issue ��
Far too optimistic I'm afraid. I think all of it is different, although it may be possible to adapt the motor with some tinkering. I need to take another look at one.
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Old 24th January 2020, 09:54 PM
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The motor arrived and I’ve managed to get it fitted, it was £65 delivered and a cheap Chinese copy as mentioned but I doubt the car will last much longer so it’s good enough for me. Fits perfect runs quiet and kicks out more air than before, although mine was worn out. will post some pics up when i get chance
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Old 25th January 2020, 01:34 PM
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Ah rats. Shame, I can see shortages of wiper units finishing off what the gearboxes don’t. At least we can replace the blower motor with a bit of wiring tinkering which is a start!
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Old 25th January 2020, 02:36 PM
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Wiper mechanisms are on my list of things to re-engineer, as soon as I get time...
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