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Old 12th April 2021, 05:13 AM
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I just picked up the car from the gearbox place.

It is a totally different machine to drive. So smooth. Seriously smooth.

The rev hunting on the overrun has vanished. The gears downshifting are not noticeable as the car slows to a stop.

I was told the internal seals were incredibly worn, and this would cause many issues as the clutchpacks cannot get the correct fluid amounts due to internal leaking.

However, it is all done now. Recommend these parts are changed every 100,000 klms.

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Old 12th April 2021, 06:14 PM
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Oh, that is SO interesting to hear! I'll try to do mine to in the weekend. Promise to post some pics.
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Old 17th April 2021, 03:28 PM
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The Swedish postal service seems to have lost my spare parts so no work this weekend. Darn
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Old 24th April 2021, 11:34 PM
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I've done about 750 klms in the car since the box was serviced now.

The service place was unable to reset the parameters for the gearbox learning, which I have heard of before in very early D3's. It should adapt itself in time in any case, which it seemingly has done.

The box is much smoother to run down the gears to first, and also engages the TC Clutch without any rev bounce on the overrun. Everything seems to be good.

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Old 5th May 2021, 10:16 AM
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Changed my bridge seal and the four rubber thingies this weekend. Reset the adaptation and ran through the initial recommended cycles from the SSP. After that, not that much driving.

So far it is behaving better but still I experience more TC slippage on 3rd gear than expected

It still seems like the shifts 2->3 and 3->4 is happening in "two steps". I get first one motor RPM and then another. Like there is a "middle gear". I don't think I have seen the TC ever closing on 3rd gear, even when really pushing the throttle to max. Guess this might be one of the clutches being worn out...

I've done what I can, will follow up the behavior closely the next coming months.
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Old 22nd December 2021, 01:21 AM
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As an update, I sent my car back to have the fluid rechecked and reset the adaptations.

There is no mechanical fault with the car to cause the misbehaviour of shifts. I did further research and decided to replace the brake switch.

This car is now 100%. The 'box can coast, it doesn't lock and unlock the TC clutch, it has power off the line again. Shifts are also more concise somehow.

I took apart the brake switch, it is a two position switch and it seems it is possible for it to misread occasionally or stick confusing the gearbox ecu.

Just some information shared.

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Old 22nd December 2021, 09:52 AM
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I took apart the brake switch, it is a two position switch and it seems it is possible for it to misread occasionally or stick confusing the gearbox ecu.
If it's the same switch as a D2 (and it probably is) there's lots of comments in various threads about how it can be slightly misadjusted or stick and cause all sorts of weirdness.

IIRC one circuit is primarily for ECU information and the other for the brake lights (you may see more wear/scarring on those contacts) and the ECU one triggers first as the pedal is pressed.

It's possible to have the ECU think the brakes are applied without the brake lights being on or any actual retardation from them, but things then happen that are confusing.
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I did further research and decided to replace the brake switch.

This car is now 100%. The 'box can coast, it doesn't lock and unlock the TC clutch, it has power off the line again. Shifts are also more concise somehow.

I took apart the brake switch, it is a two position switch and it seems it is possible for it to misread occasionally or stick confusing the gearbox ecu.
This sounds exactly like the issue several of us have had with the D2s. If interested, there is a very lengthy thread about it spanning several years, which all boils down to the brake switch. The link below is to a post I made, which quoted two other members posts (MikkiJayne and HPsauce), how you can check it and what to check for, although chances are the block number referenced is probably different on the D3:

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showpost....&postcount=247
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Old 21st November 2022, 12:49 PM
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Interestingly I was still getting this issue just less often.

I was also getting vibration through the pedal and gear wind up at low speed when cornering with lots of steering lock. A wheel bearing noise at speed was also there. I had changed the bearing, changed mounts, control arms, brakes, (twice) and serviced the diffs. Each made the vibration slightly better but it was there. My car also felt sluggish slightly.

I changed the tyres, it’s all gone. All fixed. The car is smooth again as is the gearbox. It would seem the Quattro system is extremely sensitive to tyres.
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Old 21st February 2023, 10:22 PM
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I had my gearbox serviced and asked for the 4 rubber tubes and the bridge seal to be changed. The place did a pan gasket and a fluid flush then gave the car back.

The pan then began leaking so I sent my car in to have another pan gasket and this time gave the place the 4 tube seals and the bridge seal which I ordered myself from ZF in germany. They tightened some bolts and gave the car back again. I have ZERO tolerance for idiot places who do not listen to specific instructions.

Consequently my car is still leaking and will be going to a ZF specialist on the 12th. It will have an adaptation reset as well as every seal changed. I will report back on how this cures slipping.

The solenoids adapt to low fluid or internal leaks so it should be back to brand new with fresh seals, fresh fluid (again). My car has 145,000 miles on it, and this would be its 3rd fluid change. (the first was ZF at 60,000 miles, the second was the idiots at 130,000 miles.

I will report back.
Were these the "standard" ZF 6HP26 gaskets kits they sell alot of for BMW etc? Or have VAG/Audi manged to get ZF to make them som special ones (just to make life suck that little bit extra lol).
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