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Old 31st December 2016, 01:18 AM
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Default D2s in London Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) from September 2020

It looks like some D2 owners will need to pay a fee when they drive D2s to central London starting from September 2020. Even on weekends and bank holidays.

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ult...-emission-zone

"The ULEZ will operate 24 hours a day, 7 days a week within the same area as the current Congestion Charging Zone (CCZ), and comes into force in September 2020. The ULEZ standards are in addition to the Congestion Charge and the Low Emission Zone requirements."

"If your vehicle meets the required Euro emission standard, it will be compliant with ULEZ.

The ULEZ standard is:

Euro 3 for motorcycles
Euro 4 for petrol cars, vans and minibuses
Euro 6 for diesel cars, vans and minibuses
Euro VI for lorries, buses and coaches

Please contact your vehicle manufacturer if you think that your vehicle met the required Euro emission standard before the mandatory emission standards came into effect."


I've got D2 FL 3.7 2002.
Checked my boot sticker with PR codes and I've got 0GG = Emission standard EU4.
Looks like my car is compliant, but it seems I will have to get paperwork/confirmation (from Audi ?) since emissions class is not mentioned on my V5C.

Are you guys aware of this new London ULEZ?
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Old 31st December 2016, 05:58 PM
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Hi,

I am puzzled that LPG doesn't seem to give compliance; they are a lot cleaner. Tokyo taxis have to be run on LPG.

Good work Notorious!

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Old 31st December 2016, 06:03 PM
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My S8 seems to fail: 0GE Emission standard EU3.
Not that I ever take it into London.
But as Euro 4 is dated 2005 I don't see how it (or any D2) could ever be compliant.

£12.50 daily charge to pay if you have to go there, not many miles of petrol in an S8.

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Checked my boot sticker with PR codes and I've got 0GG = Emission standard EU4.
You sure?
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Old 31st December 2016, 06:30 PM
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Hi,

I think that the manufacturers change to the higher standard when they change vehicle production lines / introduce new models.

"Right On" folks who care a lot about the environment and emissions like VAG would, oh, yes, errr, right,,,

Better check my documents as we LOVE being able to travel to London, even if we usually avoid the Congestion Charge Zone anyway (the ULEZ is based on this area I think.)

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It's probably a lot more complicated than that.

For each standard there's a date at which any new Type Approval much meet the standard, followed (typically a year later) by another date at which any newly-registered vehicle must meet the standard.
The technical standards are obviously totally well-defined some years ahead of that to allow manufacturers to develop, test and build compliant vehicles.

So I guess notorious' car could be compliant, but he will probably have a hell of a job convincing the enforcement system that it is.
If you go onto the web site the default assumption is that cars of that age WILL be non-compliant.
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We love going with family to London on weekends, so I care about the subject.

>> You sure?

After failing so many times on this forum I can't be sure on anything,
but here is my boot sticker with 0GG clearly seen on it.



I also have full printout of PR codes (that Audi will do for free) and there is 0GG in there as well. There's a plenty of websites that will decode the PR code.

vag-codes.info/vag-option-codes
vag-codes.info

They all confirm that 0GG is EU4 emissions class.

Is there a list of A8 engines that shows emissions class of each? It looks like D3s can be affected as well as they had diesel engine option in the UK.
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Old 31st December 2016, 08:24 PM
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Here is another interesting text from ULEZ web site:

"Some manufacturers started producing vehicles which met the Euro 4 or 6 standard before it came into effect. These vehicles are known as early adopters. Please direct any enquiries about your vehicle to the manufacturer. These early adopter vehicles meet the ULEZ emission standards."
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Old 31st December 2016, 08:59 PM
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My 2002 2.8 QS is 0GG too (as one would expect if a 3.7 is).

I pop down to London every so often but I HATE the congestion charge and the hassle associated with driving around London. So I jump off at exit 2 of the M1 and head to Finchley Central, park for the day in the TFL car-park (always £2.50 when I go) and make use of the tube.

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Old 31st December 2016, 09:08 PM
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The S8 AVP engine code is definitely Euro 3.

Both Euro 3 and 4 were negotiated as a package, so the dates for Euro 4 introduction were known in 1998.

The VCA web site gives you this data for the 3.7, which confirms it is Euro 4 compliant AND states the relevant values for CO, HC and NOx all of which are under the limit values for Euro 4 (1g/km, 0.1g/km, 0.08g/km respectively)

http://carfueldata.direct.gov.uk/sea...spx?vid=391700

The S8 is over the limit for HC (hydrocarbons) albeit not by that much (0.133)

http://carfueldata.direct.gov.uk/sea...spx?vid=391811

Interestingly the timescales for introduction of new emissions standards are a LOT shorter now than they were then.....
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My 2002 2.8 QS is 0GG too (as one would expect if a 3.7 is).

I pop down to London every so often but I HATE the congestion charge and the hassle associated with driving around London. So I jump off at exit 2 of the M1 and head to Finchley Central, park for the day in the TFL car-park (always £2.50 when I go) and make use of the tube.

Dean
Hi Dean,

Me too re avoiding CC Zone but t wold be nice to know!

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