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From an AU motoring site: a total of 3960 cars are affected across the following model lines in the Audi recall: Quote:
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From the various reports I've read, it is seems to be related to hot and humid countries, and how the internals of the igniters react to that sort of environment. As such, that should in theory let us in the UK off, but Audi could just decide to apply the recall globally (except maybe the US, as they would be hung out to dry).
There are also several reports of poor quality control from Takata due to their ever increasing workload, and a shift in the automobile industry to 'just in time' manufacturing, where suppliers could be fined tens of thousands if a production line stops because they didn't have the parts. There are also videos showing pallet loads of airbags modules falling off forklift trucks as they're being loaded, and being shipped anyway. Quote:
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Depending on the type of steering wheel, the airbags cost between £800 and £1,000, but production was stopped last year, so, theoretically, there should be modules available sitting in storage somewhere.
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UK cars are not affected, confirmed by a contact at Audi this morning
The recall is specific to Australian models as the airbags in question are specific to that market specification. Now that means in theory UK bags would solve the problem, assuming we can get them there. However, how this would affect type approval I couldn't say. Whether or not the Australian DMV or equivalent would accept that a car has been made safe (and consequently allow it to be re-registered) by retrofitting Euro-spec airbags would need to be checked. |
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Ok good news - I can ship airbags to Australia with a specialist courier. Its going to be in the order of £200GBP just for shipping, depending on which bags are needed. Both our sponsors and I have a reasonable stock of them.
So, the key quesion is will retrofitting UK bags will be an acceptable solution to the recall? Edit - more info from a FB contact: apparently its just the driver's side (steering wheel) airbag which is needed which should be relatively straightforward to source. Last edited by MikkiJayne; 20th December 2019 at 08:51 AM. |
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On the old cars airbags was only good for 10 or 15 years anyway and was supposed to be replaced after that but it was never enforced due to the cost of replacements comparing to value of 10+ years old vehicle.
If it's official Audi recall I think it needs to be repaired by Audi or authorised repairer, signed off and recall database updated. I don't think Audi will take a risk to replace it with second hand part from another car or even model and sign it off. I also don't think that you can DIY it or get your local garage to replace it and just say it has been done.
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Take the likes of BMW who are recalling 12,000 of their cars in Australia. This is their response, and note the bit I highlighted in bold. “BMW will arrange to tow your vehicle to repair facilities for inspection, or send a mobile technician out to your premises or vehicle’s location to inspect the vehicle,” the ACCC’s deputy chair, Delia Rickard, said on Thursday. “If your vehicle has been fitted with one of these dangerous airbags, BMW will arrange a loan or hire car or reimbursement for alternative transportation costs until airbag replacement parts are available or until other arrangements are made. “You may also wish to discuss the vehicle being purchased back by BMW.”
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This has been worrying me so much that i decided to take a peek myself yesterday to see if I could determine whether I really did have an affected airbag... Move the steering wheel as far into the cabin and upwards as the controls will allow. Then remove the earth strap on the battery, cover the battery terminal, wiat a few minutes(to rule out stray current still lingering - a bit paranoid I realise). Then remove two T-30 torx screws to release the airbag module from the steering wheel. Fold the module away from me to have a peek and... Here are the details written on the back of my airbag. It mentions "bam-pt1-0593". [URL="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=5&cad=rja&u act=8&ved=2ahUKEwiNh6bbucXmAhXtQ98KHQ4UAckQFjAEegQ IARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fssr.tes.bam.de%2Fde%2Fspre ngstoffrecht%2Fpyro%2Fpt-listen%2Fkl_t1_tech_zwe3.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3W5woGtU2SP LfZS3kAIu2H"]I found a document (in German) online[/url] which lists this code. Worryingly, it is associated with "NADI" propellant, but does not mention the "NADI 5-AT" phrase that I have seen bandied about in relation to the TAKATA recall. I don't pretend to understand the intricacies of this. Does anyone? I would love to find some more information about these specifics. Quote:
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If fitting an old and potentially useless airbag which doesn't have the taint associated with this latest recall means that my partner will get back in the car with me then it will be worth it. As it stands, she won't set foot in it after hearing about the recall, even though she was happy to ride around with me in that same vehicle last week! Quote:
Here is what I posted on OzAudi about this" Consider what BMW have said about their affected vehicles! In particular, I found this passage very interesting. ... ..."We still haven't concluded whether there's actually a real problem or not, but we didn't want to wait for the [coroner's inquest]. "We're giving them the option to rent a car, we can buy back your car. We're working with each and every customer to ensure that they're mobile and that they're being looked after even though it's a 20-year old car. "We'll store it if someone wants to keep it – if it's a collector's car. There's a time to repair it; we can store it for them until that time..."
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1998 D2 S8 Jaspis Green Last edited by C4R 100N; 21st December 2019 at 12:23 AM. Reason: Clarity and grammar |
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Did you happen to get a larger pic of the whole back of the airbag, and also the connector?
Audi's response is symptomatic of them actively wanting to kill off older models. They hate the classic and vintage cars being in the hands of enthusiasts like us and would much rather they be hidden away in a basement in Ingolstadt where no one can enjoy them. |
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Looks like no. Most of the back. But not of the connector...
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If i disconnected the airbag then I would have to clear a code, no? I have a cheap ebay cable and vwtool but am reluctant to disconnect in case I get an airbag light in the cluster which I am unable to extinguish... If you could reassure or guide me then I could be persuaded to disconnect the airbag connector from the steering wheel. Did you want a view of the connector unconnected? Showing the pins? I will go down fighting on this one. This car should be enjoyed and not mothballed or destroyed!
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1998 D2 S8 Jaspis Green Last edited by C4R 100N; 21st December 2019 at 11:33 AM. Reason: extra info |
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Australian humour! and a bit of context...
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