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Old 6th September 2020, 12:55 PM
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Question Navigation Maps - M20 J10A on the latest? ...

1) Is there anyone looking at this forum any more?

2) If so, has anyone got the latest 2020 or 2020/2021 maps?

I'm on the relatively recent 2018/2019 maps but I live in Kent about 400 yards from the new M20 J10A which was 'completed' last December.

[M20 J10A is an addition to the original M20 J10, about 1/4 mile nearer to Folkestone with a completely revised road layout between them].

Is it possible to determine whether or not J10A is on the 2020 and/or 2020/2021 maps?

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I'm still here Julian but have no idea on the map scene. Sorry
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I'm on the relatively recent 2018/2019 maps but I live in Kent about 400 yards from the new M20 J10A which was 'completed' last December.

[M20 J10A is an addition to the original M20 J10, about 1/4 mile nearer to Folkestone with a completely revised road layout between them].

Is it possible to determine whether or not J10A is on the 2020 and/or 2020/2021 maps?
Is it definitely 10A and not 11A? Just looking on Google Maps and can see the latter, but not the former. If Google Maps hasn't been amended to reflect a recent change, it's a definite that the nav maps from Audi won't feature the new junction.

I have 2020 maps on my S5 and 2020/21 on my Golf, so if you can confirm junction number I'll try and have a look when I've got the cars to hand.

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Is it definitely 10A and not 11A? Just looking on Google Maps and can see the latter, but not the former. If Google Maps hasn't been amended to reflect a recent change, it's a definite that the nav maps from Audi won't feature the new junction.

I have 2020 maps on my S5 and 2020/21 on my Golf, so if you can confirm junction number I'll try and have a look when I've got the cars to hand.

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Hi Adrian; it's definitely J10A

Attached is a current map from Google Maps on Windows:

J10 - top left
J10A - bottom right
New Roundabout - bottom left

The A2070 used to run direct to J10 with no roundabout. It now runs to both J10 & J10A via the new roundabout.

My 3G+ 2018/9 map shows the old route ...

Regards - Julian

PS Is the S5 you have running 3G+
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Hi Adrian; it's definitely J10A

PS Is the S5 you have running 3G+
Hiya

OK, will have a proper look tomorrow

The S5 is on 3G high, but the maps files themselves are the same for 3G+
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Have checked again on the maps on both cars - the S5 is running 6.30.1 2020 maps. The Golf is running the half yearly 2020/21 maps. Neither feature the new junction 10A layout, so no point updating specifically for that I'm afraid
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Have checked again on the maps on both cars - the S5 is running 6.30.1 2020 maps. The Golf is running the half yearly 2020/21 maps. Neither feature the new junction 10A layout, so no point updating specifically for that I'm afraid
Hi Adrian; thanks for checking that out. I note that the 6.31.1 2020/2021 maps are out for the 3Ghigh/plus system but it looks like that won't contain it either based on your Golf maps

Looks like you saved me a load of money as that was the only trigger to update my relatively recent 2018/2019 maps.

It's very strange though as the road layout's been in place for over a year and in use for over 10 months. I wonder at what stage the road layout change is communicated to whoever looks after mapping data.

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There's usually a 12 month lag between changes to the road network being reflected in base maps by e.g. OS. Add 6 months for whoever compiles those changes into a map database for Audi/VW, and possibly another 6 months for the change to be compiled into a revised map database......

The likes of Google Maps (and Waze, which Google now own) update based on user data, which shows a sufficient volume of vehicles doing strange manoeuvres where no road appears to exist, and then send out a survey vehicle to check what has changed. Hence they're much quicker to update.
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There's usually a 12 month lag between changes to the road network being reflected in base maps by e.g. OS. Add 6 months for whoever compiles those changes into a map database for Audi/VW, and possibly another 6 months for the change to be compiled into a revised map database......

The likes of Google Maps (and Waze, which Google now own) update based on user data, which shows a sufficient volume of vehicles doing strange manoeuvres where no road appears to exist, and then send out a survey vehicle to check what has changed. Hence they're much quicker to update.

A bit off topic but Google Maps seem to be more up to date with new roads/ layouts than Waze but Waze responds faster to traffic/accidents, especially when traffic clears up.
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