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Old 28th January 2009, 09:58 AM
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Question RS6 itch...

Guys,

I have a terrible RS6 (old shape) itch that, despite 12 months with the S8, is still there. When I bought the S8, all the RS6s in the spec I wanted were over budget, but they are extremely accessible now (want a black over tan RS6+ with sunroof ideally).

Can you enlighten me with ownership experiences, please...Ian? Craig?

Size is important - I am tall with 2 children. Speed is important (nuff said) and reliability and build is important.

Please try and convince that it would be a bad idea......

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Old 28th January 2009, 10:50 AM
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Guys,

I have a terrible RS6 (old shape) itch that, despite 12 months with the S8, is still there. When I bought the S8, all the RS6s in the spec I wanted were over budget, but they are extremely accessible now (want a black over tan RS6+ with sunroof ideally).

Can you enlighten me with ownership experiences, please...Ian? Craig?

Size is important - I am tall with 2 children. Speed is important (nuff said) and reliability and build is important.

Please try and convince that it would be a bad idea......

Zip
Well, I can happily share on that one....

The RS6 I'm running (as of only a few days ago) was bought by the business a few months back with a view to renting it out - however, given the nose dive in the economy recently, a quick review of the plan, suggests that there probably wont be as many people lining up for weekend jollies with spare cash like there was, so we've canned it.

Still got the car though....

It's very high spec, which is why we wanted it, but it has a few small problems cosmetically mainly that we'd need to fix to sell it on. Given the climate, and the fact that I rather like the power, I'm going to run it myself instead of my S8, which is going to David@a8parts....

But, dont think this was an easy descision. The RS6 gives a few benefits over the S8, power and braking being the obvious ones. Dont overlook the massive improvement in braking, its a real pleasure to have. The estate is, well, just not as cavernous as you'd think really. The 8 boot was huge and I dont need more room, so the estate is 'ok'. The fold through rear seats may well come in handy one day though.

The biggest problem to me is comfort. Silly things about the 6 make it feel cheap compared to the 8... There are far fewer air vents on the dashboard, so you are more prone to getting drafts from air blowing at you. The center vent can't be adjusted independently for temperature (i personally like cool air to my face)...

Its noisier and although this has got twin pane (which really does make a difference I promise) its still not as civilised as the S8.

The seats dont have as much adjustment, and they dont have memory. The DIS is all in red, and feels cheap, for a 60K car of the same era as our 8's with full colour ones.

The alcantara roof lining is standard, but I think they must have done that to stop it sounding really tinny !

MPG on the S8 averaged around town at 22. The RS6 wont pull above 18.

I have had 3 kids in the back, and I'd say its no more of a squeeze than in the S8. On the plus side, the rear cup holders in the rear are better thant the pretend ones in the armrest of the A8, and at a push you could use the A6 ones on the move.

The Bose does seem better in the 6 than the 8. There is better Bass...

The Rs6 probably has more 'pose power' and definitely sounds the part, but if the business didnt have one that it needed rid of, then I wouldn't have gone out specifically for it.

The power is good, it seems to just have the extra pick up you need where the S8 feels flat, but if you like comfort, refinement and a the feel of an understated rocket limo, stick with the S8....

If A8_tony lets me, I'll bring it along to whatever meet we do and you are welcome to have a good look, or if you're ever in North Yorks, again pop in.

You've probably seen the black over tan RS6 for sale by the guy in docklands claiming its one of his 20 cars that hes selling. It does look nice indeed, but remember that the RS6 prices have fallen a little and are now accessible, but be prepared to have lost a lot more on your S8. The cost to change will probably be higher now than it was 6 months ago....

Remember the RS6+ is 480bhp, where its quite easy to chip a standard RS6 to 500 and cheaper overall. Depends if you're also after the 'black chrome look'

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...E:B:SS:GB:1123

2nd time hes listed it too... Must have quite a high reserve on it.

Craig hasn't been on here yet, but if he does make an appearance, i'd really love to know if he shares the same views as me on the 2 cars...
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Old 28th January 2009, 11:45 AM
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Cool Interesting...

...looked at a few at Fontain way back. Seemed slightly more cramped in the rear seats, and definitely narrower inside.

I would only go with the Plus because I like buying the runout and highest speced of any model, otherwise I end up being jealous of others (hence paying over the odds for my high spec S8 last year...and running a very last of the breed specced up Saab 9000 Aero...again that I payed over the odds for). Love the blacked out trim and "natural" leather finish of that black Plus on Pistonheads

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/745317.htm

Your right - depreciation on the S8s has been unbelievable in the last 12 months. Wished I had waited now...makes you sick. I bought from Oscar Goldman as well (like James - saw his car before it was detailed...hmmm, he wouldn't have liked it!)

Off to France later this year, and although I have the official Audi roof bars (£9 on ebay!!!!! - almost brand new!), I will be getting a top box anyway, and as you say, boot space in the S8 is enormous.

If funds suddenly fell out the sky, I would probably make the leap (and may even keep the S8 in the short term - mind you, I am sure someone would find a good home for it).

Just looks like I will have to put some calomine on the itch in the mean time.

Thanks for the info,
Zip

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I would only go with the Plus because I like buying the runout and highest speced of any model, otherwise I end up being jealous of others (hence paying over the odds for my high spec S8 last year...and running a very last of the breed specced up Saab 9000 Aero...again that I payed over the odds for).
Ah - Must-have-the-best-itis. I suffer from that Its cost me a lot over the years

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I bought from Oscar Goldman as well (like James - saw his car before it was detailed...hmmm, he wouldn't have liked it!)
Good ol Oscar, love him or hate him, he cherry picked the best cars always - and he knew it so hiked the prices accordingly. Its smugly satisfying to see on Autotrader he's been landed with a few lemons hes really struggling to shift now....
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2000 D2 S8 Silver, 2007 3.0 Tdi Q7 Black, 2009 B8 S4 Black, 1998 D2 S8 Agate Grey,
2006 D3 4.2 Tdi Blue, 2006 D3 S8, 2007 Q7 3.0 Tdi, 2006 C6 S6,

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2011 A7 Sline, 2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2002 A2 1.4 Tdi Silver, 2006 A8 4.2 Tdi Blue,
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2009 C6 RS6 Saloon Daytona Grey, 2001 Fully Loaded A2 Tdi, 2006 Avant S6 Black, 2007 VW Caravelle Exec Black (almost an Audi)
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Old 28th January 2009, 02:44 PM
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depreciation is a bitch, but that's life.

i too paid over the odds for mine BUT i still would of paid over the odds now as it still is the only colour combo for me.

i made my mind up before i got there that i wanted it and i dont regret it one bit, its only money......

think of the poor people who brought there's new 7 years ago, that's depreciation
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Good ol Oscar, love him or hate him, he cherry picked the best cars always - and he knew it so hiked the prices accordingly. Its smugly satisfying to see on Autotrader he's been landed with a few lemons hes really struggling to shift now....
yeah he might have to sell his R8 if times get hard
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yeah he might have to sell his R8 if times get hard
not sure he's actually driven it yet......nice car though.

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So, having been to look at the Akoya Silver with cream int http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...leRegLetter=56 on Oscar Goldmans yard I was intrigued to read about the 'lemons'. Is that due to the spec or are they mechanically off?

The car seems fairly tight. However, the other ones have no heated seats which seems daft when you're sat on leather.

Can anyone shed anymore light?

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Hi,

So, having been to look at the Akoya Silver with cream int http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk...leRegLetter=56 on Oscar Goldmans yard I was intrigued to read about the 'lemons'. Is that due to the spec or are they mechanically off?

The car seems fairly tight. However, the other ones have no heated seats which seems daft when you're sat on leather.

Can anyone shed anymore light?

CBA
I'm sure James and Ian would agree that the reference to 'Lemons' is that Oscar has been unable to shift the cars...purely due to market conditions and demand. He does seem to source the best cars...it's not a comment on any mechanical issues.

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Zip,

Thanks for the swift reply. I've had a PM from Ian and my mind has been put at ease. Didn't think I would be mechanical, but it's a lot of money to spend not to ask the question!!!

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