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1st September 2016, 02:46 AM
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right rear metal to metal rattle sound
I have a rattle in the the right rear of my 2002 A8L everything passes visual inspection. I literally removed everything from trunk including spare tire, removed the rear bumper. I have changed out rear brakes and have eliminated loose brakes because I still have a metal to metal rattle sound with the parking brake dragging while I drive car over bumps. I removed the shock absorber and the noise was almost gone so I replaced with a known good one, same metal to metal rattle. Now the crazy thing is that I just bought a 2003 A8L with same noise! So I will tell you that I Have owned 2 97 A8s, a 98 A8, 2 2000 A8s, 2000 A8L, 2001 S8 and my current 2002 and 2003 A8Ls. Yes that is 8 D2s in the last 7 years. My best friend loves my A8L so much he bought a 2002 and his nephew bought a 2001 S8. So I have been wrenching on 10 D2s. I have never had this noise except these two cars. I need to solve this problem so I can sell my 2002 and put the smile back into driving my A8L. I don't have the special spring compressor or I would have removed the spring for a better inspection.
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1st September 2016, 06:35 AM
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It could be the exhaust perhaps? Or more likely a splash guard (if that's the right name) on the brakes. They can easily be bent when fitting new brakes and will touch something.
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1st September 2016, 07:18 AM
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Or it could be stone stuck somewhere above or inside subframe
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1st September 2016, 07:33 AM
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Sounds exactly like a rattle I had a few years ago.
Took ages to find what it was. Sounded like the exhaust or a loose heat deflector underneath the car. Mine turned out to be incorrectly fitted rear pads. I believe the clip that holds them in place was in the wrong position. At first inspection they seemed to be tight and correctly fitted and the noise seemed to be unaffected by braking, yet the noise completely disappeared once they were refitted correctly. I've had similar noises when the dust/heat guard catches on the disc, but that's usually quite a speed-dependant noise. When the brake pads rattle it's more road surface dependant.
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1st September 2016, 08:15 AM
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My bet is on the heat deflectors.
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1st September 2016, 09:06 AM
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1st September 2016, 09:13 AM
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I had the very same maddening noise on my old e46 3 series, and it was the rear coil that had snapped at the bottom. I'd forgotten all about that until I read MikkiJayne's comment. Simple enough fix. I bought some spring compressors from eBay cheaply enough. Fine for occasional use.
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1st September 2016, 10:18 AM
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1st September 2016, 10:22 AM
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Yeh, the spring is a good call. My sons 17yr old Honda CR-V had both springs go within a few months of each other and as as they broke in the cup at the lower end it was hard to see until it was totally jacked up with weight off the wheels.
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1st September 2016, 02:12 PM
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Thanks for the quick responses. Positive it is not the springs confirmed that has all coils. Had three sets of 269 mm rotors two drilled & slotted and one smooth. and two different oem type semi metallic pads and one set ceramic with tapered edges. Didn't notice a lose dust sheild when I changed the rotors.
The sound is very much like a sloppy set of brakes but 99% sure not brakes. The exhaust is properly supported via the rubber hangers. Next least expensive step is to pull the exhaust and heat shields and inspect the driveshaft center carrier. I think I'll order the rear output seal for transmission because I will right there. The street I live on is concrete that has cracked so the city of Toledo has patched with asphalt. So I have little bumps every 15' to rattle this issue and remind me...  Any other thoughts or ideas is greatly appreciated Thanks
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