Anyone live in Bolton ????

[Architex_mA8tey]

I have to say dealing with people trying to order online sometimes that the Bolton / Rochdale areas near Manchester are a particular hotbed of fraud / stolen card use and when challenged these people normally either hang up or try to bull**** you. avoid avoid avoid - take your flight and have a nice day in the city or something!!

[paulrstaylor]

Originally Posted by Architex_mA8tey

I have to say dealing with people trying to order online sometimes that the Bolton / Rochdale areas near Manchester are a particular hotbed of fraud / stolen card use and when challenged these people normally either hang up or try to bull**** you. avoid avoid avoid - take your flight and have a nice day in the city or something!!

I have to say that is a huge generalisation and not fair - there are a lot of legitimate businesses and individuals in Bolton and Rochdale I'm sure - I'm not from either but I'm not far off

[Architex_mA8tey]

Originally Posted by paulrstaylor

I have to say that is a huge generalisation and not fair - there are a lot of legitimate businesses and individuals in Bolton and Rochdale I'm sure - I'm not from either but I'm not far off

Paul I was very careful in what I said and I didn't generalise about the whole populations - I simply stated a fact that in MY dealings across the whole country there are a couple of areas where we regularly get SOME people trying it on and /or trying to use cards which are not theirs to have goods delivered - and I'm afraid that one area is there and the other is Slough / Uxbridge. In both cases we have also taken many orders and delivered them to those areas when they have checked out ok but they are area where we have to be particularly careful to "avoid being defrauded" in some cases. No offence meant but when people are trying to steal thousands of pounds off your business by defrauding you with other people's stolen cards then it does rather put the damper on your enthusiasm!

[paulrstaylor]

Originally Posted by Architex_mA8tey

Paul I was very careful in what I said and I didn't generalise about the whole populations - I simply stated a fact that in MY dealings across the whole country there are a couple of areas where we regularly get SOME people trying it on and /or trying to use cards which are not theirs to have goods delivered - and I'm afraid that one area is there and the other is Slough / Uxbridge. In both cases we have also taken many orders and delivered them to those areas when they have checked out ok but they are area where we have to be particularly careful to "avoid being defrauded" in some cases. No offence meant but when people are trying to steal thousands of pounds off your business by defrauding you with other people's stolen cards then it does rather put the damper on your enthusiasm!

I don't believe your assertions are statistically sound nor are they really relevant to the thread, but hey your a moderator and I'm not so I will leave that to your better judgement.

[briang9]

Sorry but really don't understand why you even contemplated this at all, from what you say it's clearly very dodgy. Just glad you saw sense in the end and took advice from these chaps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86URGgqONvA

[Architex_mA8tey]

Originally Posted by paulrstaylor

I don't believe your assertions are statistically sound nor are they really relevant to the thread, but hey your a moderator and I'm not so I will leave that to your better judgement.

As stated Paul they are sound to MY PERSONAL experiences - nobody else's, and they were relevant to the thread because the thread was about someone trading from an 01206 Bolton phone number who has now changed it to a Manchester one! My being a moderator has nothing to do with anything so not sure why you even mention it, my contributions to the forum of over 5000 posts and my views as a long standing member of the forum I guess will allow any other members to take what I say as I would expect, my personal opinion and experiences, and no doubt those that know me would know that I made them to contribute to the relevant discussion going on on this thread, so it is I that don't understand your strong protests on this one as I have neither moderated anything or tried to besmirch anyone in particular!

[tintin]

Originally Posted by Architex_mA8tey

I have to say dealing with people trying to order online sometimes that the Bolton / Rochdale areas near Manchester are a particular hotbed of fraud / stolen card use and when challenged these people normally either hang up or try to bull**** you. avoid avoid avoid - take your flight and have a nice day in the city or something!!

When's your flight (presumably to Manchester). To Neil's second point, you could have an nice day out in one of the UK's finest cities. Let me know, and if I'm around I may even pick you up from the airport

[tc4332]

Very nice, typical, offer from a Forum member, Steve(TinTin)..
Unfortunately Ricky's flight was to Exeter because that is where the "car" is supposed to be.

[Ricky22buk]

Originally Posted by tintin

When's your flight (presumably to Manchester). To Neil's second point, you could have an nice day out in one of the UK's finest cities. Let me know, and if I'm around I may even pick you up from the airport

Very decent of you buddy ! Thank you !

But as Ray has already said my flight was to Exeter and I was supposed to fly today. Have already made other plans so the flight has been forgot about.

[sarg]

Exeter is lovely for a day out

Report your experience to these guys here

http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report_fraud

As for paying a deposit without viewing, I think it depends where you're buying from. I bought a car last week with a phone deposit subject to inspection (paid on credit card for protection just in case), picked it up today, happy days