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Old 14th March 2016, 10:34 AM
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Talking New Car.....

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I have to say that the D3 was a substantial leap in build, tech and comfort from the D2, and I didn't think that was achievable again. I was sure the D4 was just a bit more of the same.

but seems I was wrong....

Some of us will have test driven the D4, maybe at the Audi meet in Wales last year, but I think we got a bit distracted nailing it, and forgot to stand back and just admire it.

This particular car is 6 years old, and having covered nigh on 90K miles, I was expecting some wear & tear. The odd squeak, or rattle. And especially having been an Audi launch car, you'd expect it to show some signs of use by test pilots.

But nothing. If you told me it had 20K on the clock, it would seem most plausible.

The 4.2 Tdi V8 is so smooth and refined. You do have to remind yourself it is a diesel under there somewhere. Subtle clues are the 800nm of torque and the fact that with the 8 speed box it barely hits 1500rpm on the motorway...

The seats are just that bit better, the massage is hugely better, the instruments, controls and automation all work, just that much better. The MMI screen is bigger, the adaptive cruise works down to 0mph and all the way up to 155mph, the steering is lighter. The heated steering wheel is hotter, the brakes are better, the armrests even adjust more nicely.

The rear blind mechanism is redesigned and is quieter, The auto boot is smoother. The interior illumination is more distributed and highly configurable, I swear even the sunroof slides quieter.

The exterior is plain Jane, a real wolf in sheeps clothing. The interior looks fussy and cluttered in many photos - I never gave it much attention - but from the drivers eyeline, its beautiful. The level of details in the trims, is really pleasing to the eye. A well co-ordinated run of materials through the cabin delivered perfectly enough to leave even the most OCD obsessed with a smile on their face.

I really do like it.

I have a motto on my wall from Sir Clive Woodwood, and he speaks of improving his Rugby team not by radically changing anything, but by doing 100 things 1% better.

and that seems to be exactly what the D4 is
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2001 D2 4.2 QS Silver, 1997 D2 S8 Silver, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2002 D2 S8 Dolphin Grey,
2003 C5 RS6 Blue, 1998 D2 S8 Black, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue, 2003 D3 4.2 Ming Blue,
2005 B7 S4 Blue, 2006 D3 3.0 Tdi Black, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2003 D3 4.2 LPG Crystal Blue,
2000 D2 S8 Silver, 2007 3.0 Tdi Q7 Black, 2009 B8 S4 Black, 1998 D2 S8 Agate Grey,
2006 D3 4.2 Tdi Blue, 2006 D3 S8, 2007 Q7 3.0 Tdi, 2006 C6 S6,

The Second 20 Audis:

2011 A7 Sline, 2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2002 A2 1.4 Tdi Silver, 2006 A8 4.2 Tdi Blue,
2007 4.2 Tdi Q7, 2006 S4 Cab Silver, 2010 RS6 Saloon Black , 2007 TT Roadster,
2010 A8 D4 4.2 Silver, 2006 C6 A6 2.7 Tdi Quattro, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue (again), 2008 Q7 4.2 Black,
2009 C6 RS6 Saloon Daytona Grey, 2001 Fully Loaded A2 Tdi, 2006 Avant S6 Black, 2007 VW Caravelle Exec Black (almost an Audi)
2009 TT Roadster Daytona, 2015 Q7 4.2 tdi lava grey, 2002 GmbH D2 demonstrator, 2006 D3 A8 LWB 4.2 Tdi Black

Most Recent Audis:

2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2007 4.2 FSi Q7 ABT Blue, 2016 S5 Coupe Launch model, 2004 S4 B6 Cabriolet, 2016 Q7 Sline White, 2006 Q7 4.2 FSi Black, 2012 Q7 Sline+ 4.2Tdi White, 2008 Blue Audi S8

Everything Else

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Old 14th March 2016, 10:38 AM
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Very nicely put as always Ian, looking forward to seeing photos

The RS6 sounds a distant (but great) memory already
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Old 14th March 2016, 10:40 AM
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Ian, we shouldn't need to tell you that photos are a must!
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Old 14th March 2016, 10:43 AM
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Pics??

I was impressed with the 4.2 Tdi Engine when i first drove it on the D4 launch when they lent me a car for the long weekend. I did find the 8 speed gears a tad frustrating at the lower end as they were constantly changing but apart from that loved everything else.

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The RS6 sounds a distant (but great) memory already
The two are Chalk and cheese. Both built May 2010, in the same factory, but couldn't be any different really.....

And that was important, because if I got something that tried to be like the RS6, it would have failed miserably
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The 17 year old Driver Wagon 2015 Skoda Citigo Monte Carlo. Alloys, Power steering, Aircon, Leccy windows, Sat Nav, bluetooth, central locking, cup holders, 59 whole bhp. Million times better than my first car. Well jealous.....

The First 20 Audis:

2001 D2 4.2 QS Silver, 1997 D2 S8 Silver, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2002 D2 S8 Dolphin Grey,
2003 C5 RS6 Blue, 1998 D2 S8 Black, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue, 2003 D3 4.2 Ming Blue,
2005 B7 S4 Blue, 2006 D3 3.0 Tdi Black, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2003 D3 4.2 LPG Crystal Blue,
2000 D2 S8 Silver, 2007 3.0 Tdi Q7 Black, 2009 B8 S4 Black, 1998 D2 S8 Agate Grey,
2006 D3 4.2 Tdi Blue, 2006 D3 S8, 2007 Q7 3.0 Tdi, 2006 C6 S6,

The Second 20 Audis:

2011 A7 Sline, 2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2002 A2 1.4 Tdi Silver, 2006 A8 4.2 Tdi Blue,
2007 4.2 Tdi Q7, 2006 S4 Cab Silver, 2010 RS6 Saloon Black , 2007 TT Roadster,
2010 A8 D4 4.2 Silver, 2006 C6 A6 2.7 Tdi Quattro, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue (again), 2008 Q7 4.2 Black,
2009 C6 RS6 Saloon Daytona Grey, 2001 Fully Loaded A2 Tdi, 2006 Avant S6 Black, 2007 VW Caravelle Exec Black (almost an Audi)
2009 TT Roadster Daytona, 2015 Q7 4.2 tdi lava grey, 2002 GmbH D2 demonstrator, 2006 D3 A8 LWB 4.2 Tdi Black

Most Recent Audis:

2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2007 4.2 FSi Q7 ABT Blue, 2016 S5 Coupe Launch model, 2004 S4 B6 Cabriolet, 2016 Q7 Sline White, 2006 Q7 4.2 FSi Black, 2012 Q7 Sline+ 4.2Tdi White, 2008 Blue Audi S8

Everything Else

1989 Subaru Justy, 1986 Vauxhall Cartlton 2.0 GL, 1985 Vauxhall Carlton 2.2 CDi, 1987 Ford Sierra XR4x4, 1983 Vauxhall Senator, 1985 Vauxhall Senator 3.0i, 1997 Polo Saloon, 1997 Peugeot 306 1.9 TDi, Ford Sierra Sapphire 2000E, 1990 Subaru Justy, 2000 Subaru Impreza, 2000 Subaru Impreza RB5, 1993 Range Rover LSE, 2005 VW Bora, 2003 Skoda Superb, 2003 VW Passat V6 4 Motion, 1996 Peugeot 106, 2000 Range Rover 4.0, 2019 Tesla Model 3 Performance
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Ian, we shouldn't need to tell you that photos are a must!
I expected this....

but not within 6 minutes of posting...

Here you go:

Extended leather, deep useful door pockets and handy flip up lid at far end for smaller items:



Comfort seat controls. Far too many controls for a 1 to 1, so the far end 4 way round control is a menu control for many many fine adjustments



Night vision and all weather headlights control





Armrests lift up in parallel, level. Not hinged from the rear.



Alcantara roof, sunroof, and you can just see the ambient light strips at the top of the B pillars:



DVD changer, for when 1 movie on tap is just not enough... and cold air inlet for chilled glovebox viewable at the rear.



MMI and HVAC controls. All neatly laid out, and easily accessible when resting your write on the gear level as per Audis design....



Massage functions. Various ones, and varying intensities. Really very good ! much better than the D3 version that just wiggles the lumbar support about a bit...



Seat fine adjustment menu....




Main 3G Plus menu:



Main DIS. Values were reset when I bought it. 200+ miles later and showing 35 mpg. Not bad at all



Ever wondered what a D2 looked like through infrared night vision? No probably not, but just in case:



Reversing camera, same as D3 from what I can see. Larger screen on D4 is good though.



Drive Select. Lots of fine tuning if you want a slightly different ride:



Main car settings menu:



Leather dashboard. Moo. Perfectly done too. I've seen a few D3's with slightly wobbly stitching...



Passenger side wider shot:



Interior lighting menu:



Driver Assist menu:



Cold feet ? Let me fix that for you sir....



Audi Privacy Handset, has phone book and O2 connection via rSap from my phone in the door pocket so the passenger can make a perfect quality call with external aerial in some privacy.



Heated steering wheel button has moved here where the easy entry / exit used to be. Easy entry/exit is now an MMI setting that is stored per user memory



Children in the back who have video consoles each, and also want to smoke? Sure. Er, we can do that too it seems....



Rear climate / heated seat controls. Visually this looks like a flimsy armrest that plonks down onto the seat, but I now see its a very well constructed solid fitment and works really well



And finally the boot. Yes, shallower than the D2/D3, but does feel wider and more accessible. Two cubby holes either side, and also a space save spare wheel underneath. The auto boot action is incredibly smooth and quiet.....

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Old 14th March 2016, 11:59 AM
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Tidy indeed. That is a nice spec car.
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Very, very nice.

Not for me though - I doubt I'll live long enough to work it all out!
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Lovely, lovely car. I think I'm going to have to seriously think about a D4 when I finally decide to move my D3 on....
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Very, very nice.

Not for me though - I doubt I'll live long enough to work it all out!
Its surprisingly intuitive.

I took a rental car one way to go collect it. Got a Vauxhall insignia. Drove it for 4 hours and couldn't get on with it all. Its 'MMI' has a screen smaller than my wifes iPhone 5 (Seriously) and a similar rez, so you can't actually read it from the drivers seat without taking your eyes of the road and squinting.

5th and 6th gear were tough to access, so kept accidently cruising along in 4th...

Its 'dis' is the same size as its 'mmi', and lower rez, so more useable, but despite being almost brand new, and an 'SRi' the whole car was a real disappointment.

As a kid, Vauxhall was my pin up poster manufacturer, but the tat they chuck out now is dreadful.

The point is, having never had a D4 before, I jumped in it, and within 5 minutes was happily heading for the motorway feeling completely in control of what was going on....

Its new, and better, but not strange......
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The Family Wagon - 2018 Tesla Model X. Black, 7 Seats, Towbar, Homelink, Enhanced Auto pilot with Summon and self park, Heated front seats, CCS Charger upgrade, MCU2 Upgrade, Falconwing Doors, Self opening / closing doors, Netflix, Spotify, toys, Air suspension, alcantara roof + lots of other stuff......

The 17 year old Driver Wagon 2015 Skoda Citigo Monte Carlo. Alloys, Power steering, Aircon, Leccy windows, Sat Nav, bluetooth, central locking, cup holders, 59 whole bhp. Million times better than my first car. Well jealous.....

The First 20 Audis:

2001 D2 4.2 QS Silver, 1997 D2 S8 Silver, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2002 D2 S8 Dolphin Grey,
2003 C5 RS6 Blue, 1998 D2 S8 Black, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue, 2003 D3 4.2 Ming Blue,
2005 B7 S4 Blue, 2006 D3 3.0 Tdi Black, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2003 D3 4.2 LPG Crystal Blue,
2000 D2 S8 Silver, 2007 3.0 Tdi Q7 Black, 2009 B8 S4 Black, 1998 D2 S8 Agate Grey,
2006 D3 4.2 Tdi Blue, 2006 D3 S8, 2007 Q7 3.0 Tdi, 2006 C6 S6,

The Second 20 Audis:

2011 A7 Sline, 2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2002 A2 1.4 Tdi Silver, 2006 A8 4.2 Tdi Blue,
2007 4.2 Tdi Q7, 2006 S4 Cab Silver, 2010 RS6 Saloon Black , 2007 TT Roadster,
2010 A8 D4 4.2 Silver, 2006 C6 A6 2.7 Tdi Quattro, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue (again), 2008 Q7 4.2 Black,
2009 C6 RS6 Saloon Daytona Grey, 2001 Fully Loaded A2 Tdi, 2006 Avant S6 Black, 2007 VW Caravelle Exec Black (almost an Audi)
2009 TT Roadster Daytona, 2015 Q7 4.2 tdi lava grey, 2002 GmbH D2 demonstrator, 2006 D3 A8 LWB 4.2 Tdi Black

Most Recent Audis:

2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2007 4.2 FSi Q7 ABT Blue, 2016 S5 Coupe Launch model, 2004 S4 B6 Cabriolet, 2016 Q7 Sline White, 2006 Q7 4.2 FSi Black, 2012 Q7 Sline+ 4.2Tdi White, 2008 Blue Audi S8

Everything Else

1989 Subaru Justy, 1986 Vauxhall Cartlton 2.0 GL, 1985 Vauxhall Carlton 2.2 CDi, 1987 Ford Sierra XR4x4, 1983 Vauxhall Senator, 1985 Vauxhall Senator 3.0i, 1997 Polo Saloon, 1997 Peugeot 306 1.9 TDi, Ford Sierra Sapphire 2000E, 1990 Subaru Justy, 2000 Subaru Impreza, 2000 Subaru Impreza RB5, 1993 Range Rover LSE, 2005 VW Bora, 2003 Skoda Superb, 2003 VW Passat V6 4 Motion, 1996 Peugeot 106, 2000 Range Rover 4.0, 2019 Tesla Model 3 Performance
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