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Old 22nd April 2009, 02:09 PM
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yeah crack on - we used to change the V8 in our little race car in an hour.. can't see what the fuss is :-)
Remarkable that the floor isn't coated in all sorts though, Big respect for the clean work environment..
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Old 22nd April 2009, 06:46 PM
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I imagine the missus would claim she's spent a bit longer

Making decent progress though. Which nut was it for any of us that are brave enough to follow you?
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I dont know whats taking you so long, come on chop chop weve got an annual meet to get to
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yeah crack on - we used to change the V8 in our little race car in an hour.. can't see what the fuss is :-)
Remarkable that the floor isn't coated in all sorts though, Big respect for the clean work environment..
Yeah! I had planned on doing it in an hour but then thought I'd try a more relaxed approach over 10 days!

A tidy mind is a psychotic mind. Which is useful in my job!
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2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block.
1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing!
1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard
2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion.
2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse.
2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter.

Previously
2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex
1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure.
1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex.
2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on.
1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8.
And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
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Old 22nd April 2009, 07:48 PM
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Default Day 2 and the Disco Knee............

Fear is a funny old thing. Only the dead don't fear.
As I walked into the club this morning I was still feeling confident. By lunchtime I was a gibbering wreck.

I've dealt with fear most of my career. I have been lectured on it, shown how to overcome it, discussed it with men and women under my command, seen it in my leaders and those I lead. I have recognised it in myself and counseled those to whom it becomes too much. At the end of the day, whatever you fear it is all the same thing. The Unknown. When I realised I was in unknown territory at lunch time, had no map, no compass and little help to turn to the old Disco Knee reared it's ugly head. For those that don't climb the disco Knee is a manifestation that occurs at precisely the wrong moment and your leg which has your entire body weight on it as you cling on for dear life starts to shake. It's uncontrollable and extends up and down your leg. the only way to stop it is to commit to that move that's going to see you fall a long way to a messy death or impressed the living feck out of those watching you.

My disco knee moment came at lunch time. I had returned to this:



Over the morning got the front radiator off leaving this:



The next thing to do was to remove the inlet manifold so I could get at all the wiring loom connectors at the back of the engine. At this point on the edge of my map (from Audipages and ElsaWin) is an annotation 'Here there be Dragons'! I have LPG and it's mounted on my inlet manifold and it's hard wired into my loom! Oooooo Feck I thought and started undoing stuff.

First thing I find is that my LPG installer had wired up inside the fuel rail! Oooooo feck, I'll have to cut the loom. I then found (I belive) that he had drilled the manifold for the LPG injectors while it was still on the engine! Oooooo feck...... Why do I believe this? Because the rear drivers side manifold nut is directly under the injector port and I can't get a socket or spanner on it to undo it! OOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo Fecking Feck. I work on this for nearly 3 hours..............

So there I am think fecking feck I'm fecked when along come some of the Royal Navy's finest engineering minds in the form of 5 Senior Rate (Senior Non Commisioned Officer) ENGINEERS to see what I am up to as they had heard there was this idiot taking the engine and gearbox out of an Audi S8 on his own.

They gather like a coven around my engine bay, looked, sucked teeth, listened to my tale of woe, sucked teeth, sucked some more teeth and then gave forth with helpful advice. In no particular order this was:
Feck!
Fecking Hell your fecked!
Oooo Sir, I think your fecked!
It's a bit stupid doing this on your own cause now your fecked!
And finally.......
I understand why your crying, I would be if I was this fecked!

At this point someone said "what we need to do is find the tit that did this and give him a good kicking"!
Without noticing, a Royal Marine had joined us and added his pearl of wisdom. When I asked him which tit he meant he replied "Any, I don't mind who I give a kicking to"!
I now had 5 highly talented engineers and a psychopath gathered round the car when a junior stoker to whom I had show the problem earlier turns up wit a bent spanner and a bent screwdriver a proceeds to crack the nut and by levering the manifold up as he undoes the nut gets it to clear the stud and allow me to remove the manifold. Brilliant!!!!
What plaudits does he receive for this moment of genius? A scud round the back of the head, mutterings of 'Smartarse' and an order to go and make the tea. Moral of the story? If your going to humiliate your superiors, do it when they have wandered off.
Anyway, away he goes to make the tea followed by the Royal Marine. This bothers me just in case Royal thinks he has found his 'Tit', so I send the Chiefs after him and finish off the manifold removal. Which leaves it looking like this...



By now I have control of my fear and start on the suspension. I had 3 advisories last year on the control arms so I am going to replace the lot. Now this is not difficult. If you had Mechano as a kid (I had the plastic version) you can strip down the suspension. I now have 11 skinned knuckles (yes, one knuckle twice for those thinking I have 11 fingers) and the drivers side in bits on the floor, with the exception of the lower rear arm as the bolt won't come out without lowering the subframe....... Great!



By now I have been at it for 10 hours and I'm flagging. The young stoker hasn't been seen all afternoon and neither has the Royal Marine. I'm hoping he has done the Navy standard thing on receiving an unpopular order and deliberately misinterpreted it. With a bit of luck he's gone off to Tescos to get some sausages, eggs and frozen chips for the Chiefs' tea and taken all afternoon to do it instead of getting on with his proper job!

It's time to tidy up, take the photo in my short report above and a few gratuitous shots for you to have as reference;

The manifold from several angles:







and a shot you wont see outside of A8Parts:
Guess which is mine?



Yes its the clean one. Am I sad.......?

The radiator....


Enough already off home for a beer and bed....


usual disclaimer......
No person was actually harmed in the making of this epic horror story (although a kitten was run over by a sit on lawnmower while he was watching me hop up and down sucking my knuckles). Any resemblance to anyone living or dead is deliberate and deliberately defamatory.
The truth is out there.

Not in here.
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2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block.
1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing!
1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard
2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion.
2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse.
2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter.

Previously
2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex
1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure.
1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex.
2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on.
1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8.
And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
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Old 22nd April 2009, 08:18 PM
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The answer is no! When doing something like this be prepared for a number of false summits. Just when you think it's all downhill you bump into the next cliff hiding in the cloud.

This morning I was determined to get the engine out today. By lunchtime I was determined to get the passenger side suspension stripped in this lifetime! One bolt, just one bolt! What is it with me and nuts and bolt? I'll tell you what it is....... They know when your on a tight time line. They do! They know and I hear them talking to each other!!! Plotting, always plotting. Muhahahaha

So. Today's plan. Whip off the passengers suspension, disconnect the last of the loom, disconnect the propshaft and remove the nearside Cat. Get the forklift in with a pallet, undo the subframe securing bolts and Bob's your mothers brother. Home in time for lunch.

You just know I didn't get home for lunch. However I am home and it is done. The locking bolt at the top of the hub carrier that locks in the 2 top control arms is no more. The bolts that held the Cat to the down pipe are no more. My friendship with the bloke who offered to help me this morning is no more and I won't pay his hospital bills either!
But the engine is out. It all took a lot longer than I expected, however, the Germans remain a logical and methodological race, so a few photos:

The other side....





A nifty little hand powered fork lift in place and taking the weight and the engine it brought out as I pulled



The subframe set up ready for stripping



And finally what you will see if you look up your own tunnel!



I am also able to boast I did it on my own. I did have some early help but he put his oily hand on my paintwork! He'll be picking his nose left handed for a while..........

Muhahahahaha

Disclaimer:

I am not a Schizophrenic fantasist.
Yes I am and so am I.

The truth is out there. Not in the budget.
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Currently,
2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block.
1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing!
1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard
2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion.
2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse.
2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter.

Previously
2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex
1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure.
1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex.
2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on.
1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8.
And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
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Old 22nd April 2009, 08:52 PM
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Having swapped straight sixes in MGCs and V8s in MGBs plus assorted engines and running gear into chevettes and Mantas for work and for giggles with friends you have my utmost respect for doing this alone.

I didn't realise that you rode as well, GSXR 750k2 here with usual yoshi and PCIII etc. Is the twin shocked, cruisery thing yours? . J/k it has two wheels and that's all that matters

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Currently,
2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block.
1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing!
1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard
2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion.
2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse.
2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter.

Previously
2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex
1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure.
1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex.
2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on.
1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8.
And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
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Old 22nd April 2009, 10:36 PM
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Hats off mike...you seem to be making serious progress so far!

Loving the documenting of all the steps...very interesting reading for all.

Good luck tomorrow
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Making some serious progres now Mike.. Hopefully re-assembly will be a touch easier.

Or are you planning on spending a day or two cleaning and waxing in there
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Old 23rd April 2009, 11:08 AM
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Did the pics work for everyone, or is my PC fecked?
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Photos are fine... Your PC is fecked
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