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11th May 2016, 12:15 PM
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2001 Audi S8 Gearbox Service
I've just taken ownership of an S8 D2 (77k miles) and would like to service the gearbox. I've booked it into Quattro-Tech who seem very knowledgeable and well reviewed. I live in Rushden (Northants). Any thoughts?
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11th May 2016, 01:18 PM
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As you know there's 2 approaches to doing this - the proper machine generally only available through ZF specialists and not at indy Audi specialists, or the drop the sump and filter out and drain what you can.
The former is clearly preferable, if you have someone local that can do it at reasonable cost. The latter is fine if the oil isn't completely ruined and you can live with a litre or so that stays in the torque converter. Aim to repeat the exercise a couple of years down the line and it should be pretty much all changed.
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11th May 2016, 01:39 PM
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Also, I think Ainars (ainarssems) lives near Rushden, might be worth dropping him a PM if he doesn't spot this and reply.
 Edit: Looks like he's on the case already. 
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2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions, ski hatch retrofit; extended leather. Aftermarket DVB-T, reversing camera and full XCarlink (Bluetooth etc.). 2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation".  (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!  Finally: gone, but not forgotten..... 1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors. e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course.  (internal dimming mirror added later)1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer. And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850! 
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11th May 2016, 02:05 PM
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Cannot say much about gearbox servicing or the local garages because I do most of the stuff on car myself and have not done anything to the gearbox. Only garages I use is Orbit in Rushden for wheel alignment and Kilby Motors in Irtlingborough for MOT's, tyre mounting, balancing and some odd job like taking a wheel hub to them to press the bearing in and out. Seeing that some gearboxes have failed soon after fluid change I am inclined to leave mine well alone and let it run until it dies as I only paid £2.5k for the car in 2008 and it has been Cat B write-off in 2007. If the gearbox fails it will be either DIY repair to the box, manual conversion or scrap it.
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11th May 2016, 02:24 PM
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I get mine serviced every other year - properly - and I have 165K on the clock.
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2002 Final Edition S8. Ebony black with Silver Grey leather and myrtle wood trim. Current mods: solar sun roof, 20mm rear spacers, 15 mm on front, red brembo callipers, 6k headlights, rear view camera, engine remap, alloy dash dial rings, alloy navi rings, tt/phaeton pedal upgrade, (and custom matching foot rest) dension ipod interface & parrot hands free kit (both fully hidden), av input, tv in motion switched thro' PF switch in blanking plug right of steering column, Audi 'quattro' sill covers, repositioned centre console switches, radio clock, .Planned mods: auto-dimming rear view mirror, dash cam (as steamship's), fit the ski hatch, refit philips drl's (or maybe not - nope, definitely not - horrible botch!).
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11th May 2016, 03:11 PM
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But in my case it is now over 18 years old and done over 140k without touching it so I better leave it alone. No flushing equipment will get gunge out in 10 minutes if there is any, it will slowly dissolve over weeks or months. If it dissolves very slowly it's not much of a problem, if the solvent washes it off in lumps that's when it becomes a problem. The rubber seals could be dried out and can soak up too much of solvents and conditioners from new oil, become too soft and brittle and fail. It may well be that oil change will not do any harm (or good) but just that gearbox at this age could be about to fail anyway. At this point I better save £250 that it would cost to service it and put it towards rebuild if necessary. Going DIY it could probably be repaired for under £500 if needs be. I am tempted to slowly introduce fresh oil to slowly wash away gunk and condition seals maybe drain 2 litres of oil and refill. I do have a bit of oil I got from Sarg in one of the meets.
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11th May 2016, 05:01 PM
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#8
11th May 2016, 06:23 PM
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What happened?
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#9
11th May 2016, 07:09 PM
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It started slipping as soon as the gearbox had been flushed out by Chester Transmissions, using their "sucky-pumpy thing". So I then ended up nursing it - very, very carefully - up the M6 and M74 to Mackies in Glasgow, who rebuilt it, and it's been serviced regularly since then with no problems over the last three years.
So I'd sort of agree with Ainar - either leave it till it breaks, or take it somewhere where they can fix it properly if it goes wrong, and be prepared to write a large cheque in that case!
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11th May 2016, 07:26 PM
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I have had a look in the net and the ZF training video https://youtu.be/S8jcRd4gyWc seems to suggest that the pan off and filter change seems acceptable to ZF. As I understand it, the S8 has the ZFHP524, whereas my previous 530i had the '19.
If you speak to Air con specialists, they all use automated machines, but that is to save time. Could the same apply to flushing machines?
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