A8 Parts Forum  

Go Back   A8 Parts Forum > A8 D2 > D2 - Engine Bay

D2 - Engine Bay Everything under the bonnet

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 20th August 2017, 12:45 AM
Simon Wallwork Simon Wallwork is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bulgaria.
Posts: 295
Default Oil level warning

Hi Folks.
I've had this one for real before, but this time it's not right.

The 'oil level' master caution comes on, on the DIS and it wont go off.

I added oil, then added more and the car then smoked for a while....not good.

The oil level's correct now, according to the dipstick, but how do I stop the 'oli level' caution?

It's on the whole time, not intermittent.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20th August 2017, 06:00 PM
David's8's Avatar
David's8 David's8 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Helensburgh, Scotland
Posts: 3,506
Default

A few questions:
1. What oil are you using?
2. Has the system been flushed through at any point to clear "unwanted deposits"?
3. Have you got VCDS? if yes, what does a scan say?
4. You can probably see my house in Helensburgh from Langbank so if you need a scan just pm me.
__________________
2002 D2 S8 – Ming Blue, Valcona leather, Vavona wood insert, solar sunroof (to be fitted), Heated rear seats, extended leather pack, 18” Avus, ski hatch, Bose, auto dim rear view mirror, rear blind.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 24th August 2017, 10:28 PM
Simon Wallwork Simon Wallwork is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bulgaria.
Posts: 295
Default

Hi David
Thanks for the offer. I often visit my sis in Cardross so I might be able to take you up on that.

To answer
1. It's some semi synthetic I think
2. No
3. I don't know what VCDS is, so no sadly.
4. :-)

Cheers
Simon

ps- I tried adding oil but that didn't do it. The car burned the excess off which wasn't ideal either
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 25th August 2017, 06:44 PM
David's8's Avatar
David's8 David's8 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Helensburgh, Scotland
Posts: 3,506
Default

The oil should be fully synthetic 5W-30 meeting VAG spec 502/505 or 507 for longlife. But it is probably not going to make much difference to oil level warnings if you have the wrong viscosity oil. That sounds like a different issue. A scan may well be useful so just pm me if you want to do this.
__________________
2002 D2 S8 – Ming Blue, Valcona leather, Vavona wood insert, solar sunroof (to be fitted), Heated rear seats, extended leather pack, 18” Avus, ski hatch, Bose, auto dim rear view mirror, rear blind.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 25th August 2017, 07:48 PM
Simon Wallwork Simon Wallwork is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bulgaria.
Posts: 295
Default

Thanks David. I might get over next week.

But I've not really looked at it yet, because I've no idea how this system works or where the connections, transducers et, are located.

Does anyone know how the oil level system actually works??

I have no clue myself.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 25th August 2017, 09:37 PM
MikkiJayne MikkiJayne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,017
Default

The sensor is in the sump. It measures oil level, condition, and temperature. There's a single connection to it on the left of the sump. It may simply have failed - thats not unheard of.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 26th August 2017, 08:24 AM
David's8's Avatar
David's8 David's8 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Helensburgh, Scotland
Posts: 3,506
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikkiJayne View Post
The sensor is in the sump. It measures oil level, condition, and temperature. There's a single connection to it on the left of the sump. It may simply have failed - thats not unheard of.
Simon is going to drop by Monday if possible and so I'll put it on the ramps, do a physical check and if that doesnt reveal the answer, use VCDS to try and get to the bottom of it.
I was looking at the service manual and was wondering how the sensor worked. It looks like a small transducer on top of the plastic sump plug so does it measure depth using ultrasound? How does it check condition?
__________________
2002 D2 S8 – Ming Blue, Valcona leather, Vavona wood insert, solar sunroof (to be fitted), Heated rear seats, extended leather pack, 18” Avus, ski hatch, Bose, auto dim rear view mirror, rear blind.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 26th August 2017, 08:50 PM
MikkiJayne MikkiJayne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,017
Default

If I remember correctly, its optical and measures the opacity of the oil. This is the sensor:



There's a small open port at the top and bottom of the probe for the oil to get in, and a bunch of electronics in there. It has a single data line to the cluster to which it communicates the various parameters so there's some sort of processor in there too.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 26th August 2017, 09:09 PM
David's8's Avatar
David's8 David's8 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Helensburgh, Scotland
Posts: 3,506
Default

Interesting. The tip looks (to me) like some sort of transducer face for measuring the "depth" of oil above it - But I might be wrong

If it is measuring the opacity of the oil how come it service intervals are set by time expired or mileage as opposed to saying that your oil is manky and needs changing?
__________________
2002 D2 S8 – Ming Blue, Valcona leather, Vavona wood insert, solar sunroof (to be fitted), Heated rear seats, extended leather pack, 18” Avus, ski hatch, Bose, auto dim rear view mirror, rear blind.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 28th August 2017, 08:37 PM
David's8's Avatar
David's8 David's8 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Helensburgh, Scotland
Posts: 3,506
Default

Today's scan shows:
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266)
29-10 - Short to Ground - Intermittent


so it seems like the sensor is toast. didnt have the time to take the belly plate off for a look at the offending article but my guess is that it isnt the external wiring.

Anyone know why the code 00562 doesnt appear on Rosstech wiki?
__________________
2002 D2 S8 – Ming Blue, Valcona leather, Vavona wood insert, solar sunroof (to be fitted), Heated rear seats, extended leather pack, 18” Avus, ski hatch, Bose, auto dim rear view mirror, rear blind.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.