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Old 19th August 2015, 10:52 AM
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I was in Europe for a couple of weeks, during which was in Holland for a couple of days.

Saw 4 Teslas in 2 days round Amsterdam area.

I've never seen 4 Teslas in the UK in total...

Why so popular over there ? Anyone know.....
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Old 19th August 2015, 11:18 AM
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Flatter landscape = more miles per charge
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Old 19th August 2015, 11:24 AM
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Flatter landscape = more miles per charge
I feared that....

Does that mean here, in the hilly UK we get less range than documented, or are Holland enjoying more.... ?

Randomly, I was in an Audi A3 E Tron this morning. Apart from a silent set off, some pretty diagrams on the MMI and a button that lets you select whether to go electric, combustion, both, or use combustion to charge battery, it was all a bit of a non event. It just drove like any other A3....

....slowly and with not much cabin space....
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The 17 year old Driver Wagon 2015 Skoda Citigo Monte Carlo. Alloys, Power steering, Aircon, Leccy windows, Sat Nav, bluetooth, central locking, cup holders, 59 whole bhp. Million times better than my first car. Well jealous.....

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2001 D2 4.2 QS Silver, 1997 D2 S8 Silver, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2002 D2 S8 Dolphin Grey,
2003 C5 RS6 Blue, 1998 D2 S8 Black, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue, 2003 D3 4.2 Ming Blue,
2005 B7 S4 Blue, 2006 D3 3.0 Tdi Black, 1999 D2 4.2 Silver, 2003 D3 4.2 LPG Crystal Blue,
2000 D2 S8 Silver, 2007 3.0 Tdi Q7 Black, 2009 B8 S4 Black, 1998 D2 S8 Agate Grey,
2006 D3 4.2 Tdi Blue, 2006 D3 S8, 2007 Q7 3.0 Tdi, 2006 C6 S6,

The Second 20 Audis:

2011 A7 Sline, 2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2002 A2 1.4 Tdi Silver, 2006 A8 4.2 Tdi Blue,
2007 4.2 Tdi Q7, 2006 S4 Cab Silver, 2010 RS6 Saloon Black , 2007 TT Roadster,
2010 A8 D4 4.2 Silver, 2006 C6 A6 2.7 Tdi Quattro, 2000 D2 4.2 QS/S8 Ming Blue (again), 2008 Q7 4.2 Black,
2009 C6 RS6 Saloon Daytona Grey, 2001 Fully Loaded A2 Tdi, 2006 Avant S6 Black, 2007 VW Caravelle Exec Black (almost an Audi)
2009 TT Roadster Daytona, 2015 Q7 4.2 tdi lava grey, 2002 GmbH D2 demonstrator, 2006 D3 A8 LWB 4.2 Tdi Black

Most Recent Audis:

2001 A2 1.4 Tdi Black, 2007 4.2 FSi Q7 ABT Blue, 2016 S5 Coupe Launch model, 2004 S4 B6 Cabriolet, 2016 Q7 Sline White, 2006 Q7 4.2 FSi Black, 2012 Q7 Sline+ 4.2Tdi White, 2008 Blue Audi S8

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Old 19th August 2015, 11:29 AM
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I saw 3 Teslas near Wokingham near where I live.
Have no idea where they recharge (apart from home of course).
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Yeah, lots of Teslas in Amsterdam, and lots used as Taxis. Makes sense in a flat and small city
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Yep, if they were white, they were probably taxis. Also, Tesla were surprising late to the party in the UK - Scandinavia and the Low Countries were earlier adopters.
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Old 19th August 2015, 01:42 PM
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Think I saw one in 3 weeks in France just.

Is there an advantageous incentive scheme there maybe? Is it Norway or somewhere that has a good scheme, and adoption is high? Remember reading about it somewhere.
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Old 19th August 2015, 01:47 PM
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I work in Amsterdam on occasion but yesterday I was in Oslo and they were everywhere! Seemed to be like 1 car in every 25 was a tesla S in the town centre. I made a comment in the meeting I had in the afternoon and the host said she had one! Seems too common there! Ha...

She said there are big taxes on imported cars - but not on electric cars. Plus zero road tax and they can use lanes that petrol cars are not allowed.

And here; Audi announce Q6 EV http://evfleetworld.co.uk/news/2015/...nge/0438021182
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It's worth remembering that the Tesla Model S outsold all the premium European brands (i.e. the A8, 7 series, and S class) in the US following it's launch (and still is, AFAIK).

A 2018 release date ( if the Q6 is actually released on time, and this is not just defensive marketing hype…) will be three years too late to compete with the Tesla Model X, which is being released this Autumn, and apparently already has a waiting list of more than 20,000…

Model X release news here:- (from Christianpost website, for some reason…)

http://www.christianpost.com/news/te...odel-x-142907/
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I feared that....

Does that mean here, in the hilly UK we get less range than documented, or are Holland enjoying more.... ?
I asked this question to the Tesla rep at the summer meet and she said that it tends to be swings and roundabout - i.e. that the uphill bits were compensated by the downhill bits / regenerative braking. The range thing (320 miles-ish) was short of my journey home by 3 miles which meant that the integral Google maps had me doing a detour thru' Edinburgh to get to somewhere north of Glasgow. I think you may find that journey distances in Holland tend to be shorter than here making the range issue less of a problem besides which they tend to be good at integrated transport infrastructure.
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