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12th January 2017, 08:50 AM
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Cheaper Lithium batteries
My friend at work found these nice looking LiFePO4 batteries that could serve as starter batteries.
They are much much cheaper than the 30Ah battery I bought around 3 years ago and paid for around £850. The 30Ah models from this company are only $280. The tricky part is going to be how to import them, is there a ban on shipping lithium batteries? https://www.bioennopower.com/collect...tteries?page=2 
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12th January 2017, 09:00 AM
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12th January 2017, 09:17 AM
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Either way, my main concern would probably be, how safe are these to use?
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12th January 2017, 09:35 AM
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I decided it wasn't clear, hence the maybe
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12th January 2017, 10:19 AM
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yes I didn't spot that, could be that they may not have high enough discharge rating. Continuous is 30A, but it doesn't say the peak rating. Found another one with a high discharge rating but it does not have a battery management circuit so that's no good. https://www.ev-power.eu/LiFeYPO4-bat...40AH.html#tab2 Last edited by Goran; 12th January 2017 at 10:31 AM.
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21st January 2017, 08:32 PM
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Deep Cycle batteries will supply their rated output continously for an extended period over a starter battery and will be generally rated lower for a similar size/capacity as a result.
For lead acid it has to do with their construction. For Li type I'm not sure how/if they control output, I would think they were slow(er) discharge by design. Provided the rated output from these batteries is adequate (you need at least 300 amps, preferably 500-600), you can easily start a car with them (I've got a couple of those LiPo mini jump start packs for emergencies - they work great even with only having about 200 cranking amps (despite claims)). My only concern would be accepting charge from the alternator - they pump quite a wallop energywise...
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