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Old 3rd March 2016, 09:16 PM
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I've not yet driven a 2-series, but I assume as it's front-wheel drive, it will have the predictable handling SWMBO is used to on the Focus. Or similar.
Is it FWD? Have BMW EVER produced a FWD? Even the 1 series is RWD isn't it?
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Old 3rd March 2016, 10:37 PM
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They seem to be starting to move into FWD with this and the next 1 Series. I think they also did a FWD 2 door hatchback (3 series?) about a decade ago for a short while, but from memory it was pretty universally regarded as poor, by BMW standards.
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Volvo V40 Cross-country T5 (4WD) 250bhp petrol auto with lots of toys.
Had a good test drive on all types of roads today in one of these. Quite impressed and the ACC (radar, not camera) works well, with a neat little thumb toggle to adjust the "car gap" to your preference "on the fly".

Quite gentle at first but in Sport mode when the turbos kick in it's about as quick as the S8, 0-60 in 6 seconds. 6-speed auto, though presumably no match at high-speed cruising.
None of the instant grunt you get from a normally-aspirated V8 but more than adequate despite being only 2 litres. What's more, very easy to drive gently, which will suit SWMBO.
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Old 6th March 2016, 11:45 PM
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Even the 1 series is RWD isn't it?
The current model is, but it's upcoming replacement will be FrontWD. The 2-series is definitely front, same platform as the Mini.

And, not to be outdone, while we are vacillating, my #2 son has ordered himself (and his new wife, with her agreement after a test drive) a new BMW M135i in Estoril Blue. Should arrive in about 6 weeks. Like this:


I need to get SWMBO into decision-making mode ASAP!

#2 son still has his 4.2 V8 S4 Avant. But with a baby on the way, due this month, the car is staying.

(My daughter and her boyfriend are currently car-free but considering a Porsche of some sort)

They were almost all here for mothers day today, and all we talked about was cars!
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1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!

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Old 18th March 2016, 04:50 PM
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The 2-series is definitely front, same platform as the Mini.
Well front or optionally four (Xdrive) on "selected" engines to be precise. We had a test drive today, both of us had a go. Acceptable and added to the shortlist.
(Tip: if you buy a current BMW don't bother with Sports seats as the adjustable side bolsters are really just a nuisance but DEFINITELY have the optional lumbar support as they are pretty poor without it)

Down to a shortlist of three now, Volvo V40, BMW 2-series and Jaguar XE. SWMBO is having a drive in the Jag on Monday as she has only been a passenger in it so far.
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Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
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e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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Old 21st March 2016, 11:24 AM
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The 2 series coupe is rear wheel drive, it's only that active tourer Citroen Picasso thingi that is front wheel drive. It's a sad day when BMW drop their naturally aspirated inline six, and start entairtaining front wheel drive.
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it's only that active tourer Citroen Picasso thingi that is front wheel drive.
Ah well, that's what we're looking at, didn't even look at the spec on the coupe.

Amazing amount of misinformation from the salesman in the showroom though, he clearly new almost nothing about the whole 2-series range. And what he did say was largely flatly contradicted by the brochures/pricelist/website.
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2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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Old 21st March 2016, 01:35 PM
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Let me know what deal you get at BMW, I can probably beat it and put you in touch with a great salesman.
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Amazing amount of misinformation from the salesman in the showroom though, he clearly new almost nothing about the whole 2-series range. And what he did say was largely flatly contradicted by the brochures/pricelist/website.
I've always fancied a job as a new car salesman. I reckon I could lead most people into buying a high spec car through hours of boring accuracy alone. They'd buy all the options just to stop me talking so enthusiastically about 'em...
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Let me know what deal you get at BMW, I can probably beat it and put you in touch with a great salesman.
Thanks for that offer, Amar.
We haven't yet decided on a BMW, it's on a shortlist of 3 at present.
And we also have an inside contact (via family) that my son is using to buy his M135i.
But I'll definitely be in touch if we do choose one.
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2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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