A8 Parts Forum  

Go Back   A8 Parts Forum > General Natter > IT, AV and other Tech

IT, AV and other Tech All computing, home cinema and technology that isnt car related

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 7th March 2021, 03:49 PM
HPsauce HPsauce is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Chilterns, almost over HS2!
Posts: 8,366
Default New (old) laptop for car diagnostics - VM question.

One for the Microsoft heavyweights this, beyond my pay grade these days.

I've been given an "old" Dell laptop that a friend was about to take to the tip, on examination it looks ideal for Audi S8 support once I've fixed the broken stuff.
At "just" 10 years old it's much newer than the S8.
(The main problems were actually just a "dead" CMOS battery and a damaged/loose power socket that wasn't recognising the external PSU correctly until I secured it)

It a business-grade Dell, small and fairly ruggedized too with waterproof keyboard, drop sensors, tough case etc. a Latitude E6320 if anyone is interested. So a decent for it's day 1366*768 resolution 13" screen but not physically huge, 8GB ram, 500GB disk and an i7 processor that runs at 2.8GHz boosting up to about 3.3GHz.
Originally W7 Pro which I've upgraded to Windows 10 Professional, which includes VM support (Hyper-V these days I think) - question alert!

The main things I'll put on it immediately will be VCDS, Elsawin and my Bentley manual. The latter 2 I currently run on Windows XP inside an Oracle VM Virtualbox. Or rather I used to, there seems to be a compatibility issue between that and the latest Windows 10 updates!

So, what's the best way to implement on the Dell with Windows 10 Professional? VCDS obviously will just run, it's the other two I'm thinking about.
Do I just install an updated (hopefully compatible) version of VirtualBox and copy the VM's across from the old system, or is it better to implement again using the VM capability of Windows 10? If so, is there a relatively simple way to transfer an Oracle VirtualBox VM of Windows XP into a Windows 10 Hyper-V VM?
__________________
2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions, ski hatch retrofit; extended leather. Aftermarket DVB-T, reversing camera and full XCarlink (Bluetooth etc.).
2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!

Last edited by HPsauce; 7th March 2021 at 03:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 7th March 2021, 05:18 PM
Adrian E's Avatar
Adrian E Adrian E is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Gatwick area
Posts: 4,051
Default

Oracle VM VirtualBox should work fine - it's what I use on my 10 year old Win 10 Pro desktop and it's very reliable. I gave up using the Windows VM software when they ended support in Win7
__________________
===SOLD===2002 Audi S8 D2 Final Edition (yes, really) in Avus Silver with purple extended leather===SOLD===

2011 S5 Sportback in Phantom Black with black Super Sports leather, 9x20s, tech pack high, adaptive xenon plus, intelligent key, memory seats pack, sunroof, B&O, Audi Drive Select & quattro Sports Diff, DAB, parking system plus

2015 VW Golf GTI Performance Pack in Carbon Grey with black Vienna leather, tech pack (Discovery Pro nav & Dynaudio), DCC, factory towbar and retrofit RVC
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 7th March 2021, 05:31 PM
homer simpson's Avatar
homer simpson homer simpson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,142
Default

I run VCDS, Elsawin and ETKA all on Win 10 pro with no issues
__________________
2008 (facelift) S8 with B&O, ACC, glass sunroof, reversing camera, front and rear heated seats, ceramic brakes, homelink, electric side and rear blinds, ski load through, heated fan washer jets, remote boot closing, de-flapped manifold, fridge, umbrella holder
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 7th March 2021, 05:37 PM
MikkiJayne MikkiJayne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,017
Default

Which version of Elsawin have you got running on W10? I'm still running it in a W7 Hyper-V vm.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 7th March 2021, 06:01 PM
HPsauce HPsauce is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Chilterns, almost over HS2!
Posts: 8,366
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikkiJayne View Post
Elsawin ...............…. running it in a W7 Hyper-V vm.
MJ can I ask why? E.g. is Hyper-V something you work with regularly or are there other advantages?
__________________
2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions, ski hatch retrofit; extended leather. Aftermarket DVB-T, reversing camera and full XCarlink (Bluetooth etc.).
2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 7th March 2021, 06:59 PM
MikkiJayne MikkiJayne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,017
Default

Built in to Windows and just works. I use it all the time. Plus, its nothing to do with Oracle which is always a bonus.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 7th March 2021, 07:06 PM
Adrian E's Avatar
Adrian E Adrian E is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Gatwick area
Posts: 4,051
Default

I wasn't even aware of Hyper V until mentioned here - was it something that didn't originally feature in Win10 in earlier releases? The old Win7 VM integration was pretty good - could get ETKA to run as if a native app

I did run VMWare Workstation Pro, but a Win10 update meant that VMWare stopped working on old kit, as it required a faster processor than my PC has.....
__________________
===SOLD===2002 Audi S8 D2 Final Edition (yes, really) in Avus Silver with purple extended leather===SOLD===

2011 S5 Sportback in Phantom Black with black Super Sports leather, 9x20s, tech pack high, adaptive xenon plus, intelligent key, memory seats pack, sunroof, B&O, Audi Drive Select & quattro Sports Diff, DAB, parking system plus

2015 VW Golf GTI Performance Pack in Carbon Grey with black Vienna leather, tech pack (Discovery Pro nav & Dynaudio), DCC, factory towbar and retrofit RVC
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 7th March 2021, 07:15 PM
MikkiJayne MikkiJayne is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 5,017
Default

It first arrived in Windows 8. I think it was only in the Pro releases though.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 7th March 2021, 07:46 PM
HPsauce HPsauce is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Chilterns, almost over HS2!
Posts: 8,366
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikkiJayne View Post
Built in to Windows and just works. I use it all the time.
Just had a quick peek at it and some online information implies that it "might" have an inbuilt set of basic OS'es.
However, looking on my "new old" Dell laptop, after adding it, there are no OS'es visible. Do I have to have the media/keys to install whatever I need? In this case XP SP3.

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikkiJayne View Post
It first arrived in Windows 8. I think it was only in the Pro releases though.
And only in Pro W10, not Home.
__________________
2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions, ski hatch retrofit; extended leather. Aftermarket DVB-T, reversing camera and full XCarlink (Bluetooth etc.).
2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!

Last edited by HPsauce; 7th March 2021 at 07:48 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 7th March 2021, 08:41 PM
homer simpson's Avatar
homer simpson homer simpson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,142
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MikkiJayne View Post
Which version of Elsawin have you got running on W10? I'm still running it in a W7 Hyper-V vm.
Elsawin 6.0, only had Audi installed.
__________________
2008 (facelift) S8 with B&O, ACC, glass sunroof, reversing camera, front and rear heated seats, ceramic brakes, homelink, electric side and rear blinds, ski load through, heated fan washer jets, remote boot closing, de-flapped manifold, fridge, umbrella holder
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 04:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.