A8 Parts Forum  

Go Back   A8 Parts Forum > A8 D2 > D2 - Axles, Brakes, Suspension and Steering

D2 - Axles, Brakes, Suspension and Steering Brakes, Springs, shocks, steering racks, steering columns, suspension arms, wheel hubs etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 13th August 2010, 06:06 PM
woodshed woodshed is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Work in Ireland - Home in Devon
Posts: 32
Default Help needed with rattling calipers

Hello Gents / Ladies

My first post on the site!

I have obtained a 1996 3.7 A8 (non quattro). I am extremely pleased with it except for one thing. The front brake calipers seem to have worn the pin they slide on so much that I can move them side to side by hand with little effort. A consequence of this is a rattle from both sides over bumps and rough ground.

I have read a lot of the posts on this site and eliminated most of the other possible causes of the rattle.

I am trying to get hold of new or remanufactured front calipers without any luck. I have just had a refund from my last effort as they cannot get hold of them after taking the order.

Does anyone know of a good source? Is there a repair kit to replace the pin?

I know that A8 parts can supply a used set, but I am trying to avoid a repeat.

Any help would be appreciated.

Martin Wood

(working in Ireland, home in Devon)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 13th August 2010, 08:04 PM
woodshed woodshed is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Work in Ireland - Home in Devon
Posts: 32
Default Rattling Caliper pt 2

I managed to get an old caliper from a breaker locally to look at, to see if I could repair it. I should have guessed from the fact that the breaker cut the flexible pipe - how are you supposed to separate the flexible pipe from the metal pipe on the caliper, without twisting the end off the metal pipe?

Can you get e replacement?

Martin Wood
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 13th August 2010, 08:30 PM
PsYcHe PsYcHe is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blantyre, Scotland
Posts: 4,136
Default

You need a special brake pipe spanner to take the metal pipe off the caliper (there should be a nut there). and just use your existing one.

Though make sure you flush it properly, as you will get some air up there.
__________________
2010 Jag XF 3.0D Portfolio S

I know.. I know..

Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 13th August 2010, 09:27 PM
woodshed woodshed is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Work in Ireland - Home in Devon
Posts: 32
Default Rattling Caliper

Thanks for the reply, but the problem I have found is disconnecting the metal pipe from either the caliper or from the flexible pipe at the other end.

The caliper I have been playing with is from a broken A8 younger than mine, and I have been unable to remove any of the bolts etc without twisting and breaking the metal pipe! If I do that with the one on the car I am stuck.

I can get it all apart but at this rate I am going to need a replacement short metal brake pipe.
__________________
Martin Wood

Rescue Helicopter Pilot

Work in Ireland - Home in Devon
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 16th August 2010, 07:16 AM
Dezzy's Avatar
Dezzy Dezzy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: N. Devon
Posts: 2,715
Default

Hi Martin i have had to change both my front calipers for the same reason. I can't remember the name of the company off hand although i think they were called Transhock (I will check though bill's at wk-end). 1 they just sent and i had to send them mine to get a deposit back i think £85 (after refund) and the other i had to send mine to them and they referb'd it as none in stock, 2 day turn around.

What company / s have you tried?
Where are you in Devon?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 20th August 2010, 12:44 PM
Conan_the_Librarian's Avatar
Conan_the_Librarian Conan_the_Librarian is offline
UberSeniorChiefLibrarian
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a library
Posts: 3,865
Default

Hi Martin,

Welcome to the forum. You can separate the flexible hose from the metal hose as they are separate items. You will have to get 2 open ended ring spanners and lotsa easeout oil and just go for it.

You see what I mean from the picture.

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Brake lines.jpg
Views:	643
Size:	26.5 KB
ID:	1334  
__________________
Conan (the Librarian)

Watch it if you dare

Currently,
2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block.
1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing!
1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard
2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion.
2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse.
2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter.

Previously
2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex
1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure.
1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex.
2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on.
1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8.
And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 22nd August 2010, 05:31 PM
woodshed woodshed is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Work in Ireland - Home in Devon
Posts: 32
Default Thanks for the help

Thanks a lot for the help / suggestions.

I got 2 calipers from a local VW and Audi breaker, down the road from where I work in Ireland. No matter how I tried, undoing the joint between the metal and flexible pipe on the caliper resulted in twisting off the end of the metal pipe. Luckily I was able to drill out the fittings and use them again with new pipes manufactured locally.

So far the rattle has gone. Fingers crossed!

As part of the process I bought a set of Goodrich braided hoses. So far I have not had the guts to try and separate the metal / flexible pipes at the inside end. If those break it will not be quite so easy to fix.
__________________
Martin Wood

Rescue Helicopter Pilot

Work in Ireland - Home in Devon
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 22nd August 2010, 05:34 PM
woodshed woodshed is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Work in Ireland - Home in Devon
Posts: 32
Default Where in Devon - Dezzy

Hi Dezzy, home is on the edge of Exmoor NE of Barnstaple. My aquisition will be there for the first time next week as I will be getting the MOT updated.
__________________
Martin Wood

Rescue Helicopter Pilot

Work in Ireland - Home in Devon
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 23rd August 2010, 11:30 AM
Conan_the_Librarian's Avatar
Conan_the_Librarian Conan_the_Librarian is offline
UberSeniorChiefLibrarian
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: In a library
Posts: 3,865
Default

how often do you have to rescue a helicopter pilot?
__________________
Conan (the Librarian)

Watch it if you dare

Currently,
2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block.
1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing!
1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard
2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion.
2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse.
2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter.

Previously
2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex
1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure.
1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex.
2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on.
1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8.
And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 23rd August 2010, 05:26 PM
Dezzy's Avatar
Dezzy Dezzy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: N. Devon
Posts: 2,715
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodshed View Post
Hi Dezzy, home is on the edge of Exmoor NE of Barnstaple. My aquisition will be there for the first time next week as I will be getting the MOT updated.

Ok so i've not seen it about yet then. There seems to be a few popping up in the area. Don't worry i'm not an 8 spotter just keep seeing them about there was a S8 in Combe Martin last night with a S8 *** plate.

Martin your name is familiar, did you fly Seaking whirlygigs at Chivenor?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.