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Old 9th April 2011, 09:55 PM
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I use nitrogen, I have noticed the fuel economy is better. Makes a difference in my trade. Not so sure it would be that useful for vehicles that aren't used frequently.
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I use nitrogen, I have noticed the fuel economy is better. Makes a difference in my trade. Not so sure it would be that useful for vehicles that aren't used frequently.
thats what I call gas lift suspension!!
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In theory (if I wasn't conned) I have nitrogen in all but the O/S rear.
No difference I can detect and no difference in temperatures during use.
I was conned wasn't I. He didn't put nitrogen in did he

Now I've got to try Kwik Fit, so I know. A fiver sounds so cheap, was that the lot or per wheel?
its £1.50 per wheel or £5 for all four doing
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Old 10th April 2011, 08:56 AM
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I got Kwikfit to put Nitrogen in my tyres a while back - it seemed to give a small but definite benefit to ride and economy, but I notice it less now (either because I take it for granted, or because I was imagining it!!)
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I just want to check if the numbers look right.
As per wikipedia, Nitrogen density = 1.251g/L
Air is 78% Nitrogen, 21% Air, 1% Argon, average density = 1.294g/L

I dont know if my calculation is right, a 245/45 18" tyre at 35psi holds 93l of air.
So, the weight of air in a tyre vs weight of Nitrogen in a tyre is:
Air = 93x1.294 = 120g
Nitrogen = 93x1.251 = 116g

Weight saved = 4g. but, because rotating mass is like saving 2.5x static mass, thats a saving of 10g.

I doubt anyone would feel that.
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Old 20th April 2011, 09:41 PM
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I'm uncertain running on curry emissions is better than nitrogen. Unless you're using is a fuel
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im defintaely going to give this stuff a go when my drift car is back on the road.

when i say the back tyres get too hot to touch im not making it up

you cant touch the wheel as you will burn your hand its that hot.

i know the nitrogen wont cure the heat on tyre and wheel, but it will stop my wheels going to like 70-80psi during drifting
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Would the tyre pressures be the same as manufacturers spec when using nitrogen?

Also is there a different pressure required for faster driving, how's this affected by nitrogen or vice versa?

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Tristar Worldwide Chauffeur services use it in all their cars.
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Old 10th May 2011, 09:23 AM
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FWIW, aircraft (well, large ones anyway) only use nitrogen for tyre inflation.

I think the reason is that N expands less when heated, thus the tp stays constant after very heavy usage. Aircraft wheels/ tyres get very hot and 'work' extremely hard. The tyres wear out quickly and get changed frequently.

It's not to do with leaking through the tyre (or elsewhere) because the pressure is checked and adjusted daily.


It might be because Nitrogen is 'drier' than air. Air's always got water in it.

I'll ask an engineer.

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