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13th January 2021, 08:10 PM
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Soooo.... wind back the clock to Sunday when everything was just oily and not broken. Insert Time And Relative Dimensions In Space joke here...
I've decided this AQH is too much work right now, as I have a couple of fixed points in time coming up and I need this one turned round quickly. While the engine mount is fixable, its going to take a week or so of ordering and making tooling, making the repair insert, and actually applying it, plus fixing everything else like the inlet manifold, injectors etc and I just don't have time. I've got a spare AVP from stock and I'm going to do all the same work to that instead, and I'll sort the AQH out later. Part of the role of this car is to allow me to test all my spare engines and get them all rebuilt and ready to use, so I've just shuffled the order a bit. AQH on the left, wrapped up to stop anything getting in the inlet ports, replacement AVP on the right Started stripping it down So much cleaner! Obviously this has set me back a couple of days of cleaning, but it will save much more than that since this engine is in a far better state to begin with  It also had a genuine timing belt kit and water pump fitted shortly before it was decomissioned so all that stuff is in pretty good condition and can be re-used, apart from the belt which will be new.
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#113
15th January 2021, 06:53 AM
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Regarding the wrapping of the AQH to prevent dirt ingress, i see from the engine service manual that there's a set of engine bungs available (VAS 6122) but when i checked the price they were around 100$ a set!! And you would need a few a those MJ
 100$ for a set of plastic bungs is a bit steep And, a question for you MJ - whats the differences between the AQH and AVP? I see that there's a slight difference in torque (430@3500rpm and 420@3400 respectively) ?
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#114
15th January 2021, 07:59 AM
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#115
15th January 2021, 08:17 AM
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Mechanically nothing as far as I can tell. It seems to be all about the shift from Euro 3 to Euro 4, and the consequent change from Bosch Motronic 7.1 on the AQH to 7.1.1 on the AVP. With that comes secondary O2 sensors, individual control of the cam timing, and a warning light if secondary air isn't working. They changed the software and so also changed the engine code. BCS is the American version of the same thing, again mechanically the same but with different emissions specs. Cylinder heads, pistons, cams etc all the same so the difference in output is likely down to software.
Ironically, while the FL2 S8 got all the new Euro 4 gear, its still actually rated Euro 3 whereas the FL2 3.7 and 4.2 did achieve Euro 4. Luckily for British FL2 S8 owners though, DVLA class all the FL2 V8s as Euro 4  David - funnily enough I have a few items from that engine bung set from the two brand new engines I use
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#116
15th January 2021, 09:07 AM
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#117
15th January 2021, 09:23 AM
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MJ, your next Mastermind question is this:
The AQH /BCS engines seem to matched with different gearbox IDs too. The AQH/BCS are attached to ECY (ZF Pt No 1058 020 013; Audi Pt No 01L 300 041S) whilst AVP/AYS are attached to FBG (always though that stood for "F*cking Big Gearbox) (ZF Pt No 1058 020 030; Audi Pt No 01L 300 042P) Why?
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#118
15th January 2021, 10:18 AM
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Software changes again. ECY and FBG are exactly the same hardware, but with differences in the user interface - ECY has PRND432, FBG has PRNDS. You can put an ECY gearbox in an FL2 in place of an FBG and it works just fine. Likewise, you can put an FBG control unit and shifter in an FL1 with an ECY to get PRNDS (which I have done in mine and Mike's), although early FL1 clusters don't display the gear selection in the LCD as they don't understand the CAN messages.
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#119
15th January 2021, 10:41 AM
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Damn. Ill have to try harder
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15th January 2021, 11:30 AM
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