Another tyre dilemma !!! - Page 5

M-A8 · #41 16th June 2017, 05:38 PM

Same here Lee.

Although it may take a while as it needs 500 miles to bed them in, and usually it takes me a month if not more to cover that distance, but as I love night drives with ''no destination'', it may take less time before I can start throwing it around the corners

ainarssems · #42 16th June 2017, 07:13 PM

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Sideways is spectacular, but when you floor it in wet and ESP kicks in before you even get up to speed, your engine is reving, exhaust is screaming but car is literally crawling isn't - rather pathetic, but the back end doesn't steps out

I know exactly what you mean. Thankfully my S8 is old enough not to have ESP or traction control and with mechanical throttle so I do not get any interference but it does catch me out sometimes. While I expect rear wheels to spin in wet sometimes it throws me unexpected surprise in dry. I bet it looks a bit wonky if I get scared and release throttle. By comparison my other car 2.5 TDI A6 quattro looses traction at he back a lot more as it's tuned to have around 440-445Nm compared to S8 410Nm and has manual gearbox and skinny tyres. Although I am pretty good after 5 years of A6 ownership to judge grip sometimes it catches me out and when ESP cuts power it seems to last forever. I would expect D3 and S car to have faster and more sport orientated ESP to be less intrusive.
Also on A6 if I switch off ESP it still seems to be working but at lesser stage, only way to fully disangage it seems to be cut power yo ABS ECU.

HPsauce · #43 16th June 2017, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ainarssems

Thankfully my S8 is old enough not to have ESP or traction control and with mechanical throttle so I do not get any interference but it does catch me out sometimes.

I never knew that ESP was that recent (OK 20 years), my 1998 PF S8 had it and it worked really well, only when you pushed to (or beyond!) the limit.

ainarssems · #44 16th June 2017, 08:26 PM

We are drifting away a bit here from the thread but yes mine is a very early S8 from 1997.

ainarssems · #45 8th July 2017, 06:11 PM

Just to follow this up GoodYear F1 on my S8 seem to be OK in hot weather, really nice grip and full tank of petrol means more weight at the back eliminating rear loosing traction. But they have worn quite a bit as well. Thry have probably gone from 7mm tread to 4mm tread in less than 4k miles and have been awful in cold and wet.

Lee S · #46 9th July 2017, 10:17 AM

Yes, my friend said the same thing when I suggested to him I was going to buy a set of F1s. He said that despite the 'hype' they were very 'ordinary' and they wore out completely in about 8k to 10k. I canned the idea and got a set of 4 P-Zeros with PNCS from Oponeo. I'll stick with what works the best on my car. I have never ever had a loss of traction or any breakaways no matter what the conditions, they wear well and fairly evenly. I always buy the 'R01' specced versions too. If they're OK for an RS6 they'll do me !! Fine tyres.

David's8 · #47 22nd July 2017, 06:34 PM

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Sideways is spectacular, but when you floor it in wet and ESP kicks in before you even get up to speed, your engine is reving, exhaust is screaming but car is literally crawling isn't - rather pathetic, but the back end doesn't steps out

Well, I was going to buy it today, but as there is no difference between today and monday due to the weekend, I thought I will take couple more days to decide, but it looks like Goodyear Eagle's F1 Assy 2.

So, what did you go for in the end and how have they worked in practice?

Audidothat · #48 22nd July 2017, 07:33 PM

Last week I put 4 Kumho Ecsta on.
Quietest tyre I have ever had on any car. Period.
Great in last weeks rain.
Probably wear out quickly but at the moment I am loving them, just saying.
Also fitted on the Q7 by Audi, according to WL Audi tyre man.

I had Yoko's on before and they lasted 30k miles! Admittedly I probably should have changed them at 29.5k!!

95% of my miles are motorway.

M-A8 · #49 6th September 2017, 08:46 AM

Sorry for the delay guys.

So, after visiting my favourite tyre place Goodyear F1 was out of the question straight away, sidewall was horrible, soft like a sponge.
So I ended up putting 4x P Zero RO1 PNCS

Del, are you happy with F1's so far??

MikkiJayne · #50 6th September 2017, 08:53 AM

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So, after visiting my favourite tyre place Goodyear F1 was out of the question straight away, sidewall was horrible, soft like a sponge.

Agreed. The F1 Asymmetric 3 is deeply horrid. Unfortunately my tyre guy ordered them specially so I didn't have a choice. They are spongy, the handling is vague and wobbly, and they are even ugly to look at. Possibly the worst 'premium' tyre I've ever had the misfortune to pay for.

Curiously we have Asymmetric 2s on the TT and they are great so I wonder if they only really work with smaller sidewalls?