Another tyre dilemma !!!

[roberto]

275/35R20 ACCELERA PHI-2 102Y XL (CAR SUMMER)

used em for years on every car i have owned and cars owned now

£70 a corner

why ?

ive had several un-repairable punctures over the years on £250 tyres and got fed up tried these never looked back
please yourself
just ordered 4 more for the A8

[Turbo Tony]

I just posted in Del's thread about how much I like the Eagle F1s on mine. I accept I'm still learning my car, but I've pushed the tyres in almost all conditions (not driven her yet in the snow) and they've been grippy and predictable. I'm also impressed by their low noise on the motorway, anywhere except the concrete section of the M25, where they howl like wolves at the moon.

I think for my next change, I'll be switching to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. I can't resist the idea of two different compounds on a tyre! Also, I run Michelins on my Volvo for years and they've served me well.

[tonupkid]

D3 S8 with factory 20's & I've had:
Yokohama Advan 2 sets.
Michelin Super sports 1 set.
Bridgestones 1 set.
Pirelli P Zero's 1 set.
The Michelin's were by far the worst for wear
The Yokohama, Bridgestone and Michelin quickly became noisy (booming on some surfaces)
The Pirelli's have been by quite a margin the best of the bunch. They are on the car now and what I'll buy again if I still own the car when they need replacing.

BTW Not had the back end breaking away. The biggest issue is understeer, which is something Audi design into their cars to keep us awake (too much mass out in front of the front axle). How the hell do you loose the back end? I only managed that on a beach, with the traction control off and the gearbox in sport mode

[HPsauce]

Originally Posted by tonupkid

How the hell do you loose the back end? I only managed that on a beach, with the traction control off and the gearbox in sport mode

The ton of sand in your rear bumper didn't help much either.

[M-A8]

Originally Posted by roberto

275/35R20 ACCELERA PHI-2 102Y XL (CAR SUMMER)

used em for years on every car i have owned and cars owned now

£70 a corner

why ?

ive had several un-repairable punctures over the years on £250 tyres and got fed up tried these never looked back
please yourself
just ordered 4 more for the A8

I've only once in my life had un-repairable puncture so I'm happy to buy better tyres, plus as I said I need good rubber for confidence in the car when I want to push it a bit further.

[M-A8]

Originally Posted by Turbo Tony

I just posted in Del's thread about how much I like the Eagle F1s on mine. I accept I'm still learning my car, but I've pushed the tyres in almost all conditions (not driven her yet in the snow) and they've been grippy and predictable. I'm also impressed by their low noise on the motorway, anywhere except the concrete section of the M25, where they howl like wolves at the moon.

I think for my next change, I'll be switching to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. I can't resist the idea of two different compounds on a tyre! Also, I run Michelins on my Volvo for years and they've served me well.

Tony, I think you have just made this decision for me
When you say pushed, do you mean like proper pushed that its almost scary and adrenaline is flowing like a fuel under high pressure ??

I hate this bit on M25 and I don't understand how this section hasn't been resurfaced yet.

Thank you Tony

By the way, dual compound ain't that great, at least wasnt for me. As far as I am aware, Toyo Proxes T1 Sport which I bought brand new had soft compound on the inside of the tyre a hard compound on the outside. When I removed them there was absolutely nothing left on the inside but 5mm left on the outside in less than a year.

[Lee S]

Originally Posted by tonupkid

The Pirelli's have been by quite a margin the best of the bunch. They are on the car now and what I'll buy again if I still own the car when they need replacing.

BTW Not had the back end breaking away. The biggest issue is understeer, which is something Audi design into their cars to keep us awake (too much mass out in front of the front axle). How the hell do you loose the back end? I only managed that on a beach, with the traction control off and the gearbox in sport mode

+1 - I have the P Zeros R01 PNCS in 20" (275/35 20) and I drive my car fairly hard at times and it has 830+ Nm torque and 370HP and I have never ever had an issue with the back or the front losing grip. In the wet they instil confidence (something Contis and Dunlops never did). I have been through 2 sets now and never had cracking or uneven wear issues. I'm tempted to stick to these and they have the noise cancelling foam inside too so nice and quiet. You must be driving like a maniac to get the back end of an S8 to break loose in the dry.....

[M-A8]

Originally Posted by tonupkid

D3 S8 with factory 20's & I've had:
Yokohama Advan 2 sets.
Michelin Super sports 1 set.
Bridgestones 1 set.
Pirelli P Zero's 1 set.
The Michelin's were by far the worst for wear
The Yokohama, Bridgestone and Michelin quickly became noisy (booming on some surfaces)
The Pirelli's have been by quite a margin the best of the bunch. They are on the car now and what I'll buy again if I still own the car when they need replacing.

BTW Not had the back end breaking away. The biggest issue is understeer, which is something Audi design into their cars to keep us awake (too much mass out in front of the front axle). How the hell do you loose the back end? I only managed that on a beach, with the traction control off and the gearbox in sport mode

There is only one way to get out from my street (one way) and its onto a busy high street. With people not being very keen on letting anyone in, most of the time its a pedal to the metal from standstill 90deg turn.
Also it happens on the roundabouts sometimes.
Kind of lost confidence in Pirellis, but I have to say wear is very good, so maybe it is a good trade off ?!?!?

[M-A8]

Originally Posted by Lee S

You must be driving like a maniac to get the back end of an S8 to break loose in the dry.....

YES !!!

But not when roads are busy, I'm not a moron....I think

[Lee S]