Are Teslas any good?

[ainarssems]

It took Tesla a week to respond and they said they cannot tell me anything as I am not current owner because of GDPR. The way I undersatnd GDPR is about protecting personal information. I never asked about owners name, address or phone number, only details about car. I do not see how is this affected by GDPR. They are either playing it too safe or can't be bothered. Anyway that car is gone now. First price went from £36k to £38.5k on autotrader while it was still £36k on sellers website, then disappeared next day. It was a nice car but I do not regret loosing out as I did not want to rush into it and there was couple of things I did not like. Light seats are not really for me and I would prefer 19" instead of 21" wheels and it seemed from video like it had a lot of stone chips at front and couple of scratches on the sides.

I have watched videos on youtube showing the seats folding on 7 seater which made me realise you don't get spare with 7 seater, further search revealed there is no spare at all on Model S which is a big deal for me. I understand on rwd models front boot is just big enough to store full size spare. So while I initially discounted RWD versions the possibility to have spare wheel at front and keep the rear boot space is a compelling reason to consider RWD, especially since they are cheaper. I also see that weight distribution places most of weight on rear axle so it's more like a mid engined car and not like BMW or Merc with no weight on rear wheels. I did have MR2 for a while and it was great car with lot of grip so perhaps I should give another consideration to 2wd even if I have not had 2wd car for over 10 years now.

Either way it seems like my next car will be electric, Tesla or another make and I have booked EV experience with Volkswagen ID.4 for 8 days/7 nights starting 09/10/21 for £120 from Milton Keynes EV experience centre https://evexperiencecentre.co.uk/ That's the kind of money you would pay for rental car for 1 day and I am having it 8 days. They include free charging on BP Pulse network and include 50 miles per day /400 miles total, and any excess is 25p per mile. I consider it very well priced and would encourage anyone considering EV to try it.

[tintin]

Originally Posted by ainarssems

It took Tesla a week to respond and they said they cannot tell me anything as I am not current owner because of GDPR. The way I undersatnd GDPR is about protecting personal information. I never asked about owners name, address or phone number, only details about car. I do not see how is this affected by GDPR. They are either playing it too safe or can't be bothered. Anyway that car is gone now. First price went from £36k to £38.5k on autotrader while it was still £36k on sellers website, then disappeared next day. It was a nice car but I do not regret loosing out as I did not want to rush into it and there was couple of things I did not like. Light seats are not really for me and I would prefer 19" instead of 21" wheels and it seemed from video like it had a lot of stone chips at front and couple of scratches on the sides.

I have watched videos on youtube showing the seats folding on 7 seater which made me realise you don't get spare with 7 seater, further search revealed there is no spare at all on Model S which is a big deal for me. I understand on rwd models front boot is just big enough to store full size spare. So while I initially discounted RWD versions the possibility to have spare wheel at front and keep the rear boot space is a compelling reason to consider RWD, especially since they are cheaper. I also see that weight distribution places most of weight on rear axle so it's more like a mid engined car and not like BMW or Merc with no weight on rear wheels. I did have MR2 for a while and it was great car with lot of grip so perhaps I should give another consideration to 2wd even if I have not had 2wd car for over 10 years now.

Either way it seems like my next car will be electric, Tesla or another make and I have booked EV experience with Volkswagen ID.4 for 8 days/7 nights starting 09/10/21 for £120 from Milton Keynes EV experience centre https://evexperiencecentre.co.uk/ That's the kind of money you would pay for rental car for 1 day and I am having it 8 days. They include free charging on BP Pulse network and include 50 miles per day /400 miles total, and any excess is 25p per mile. I consider it very well priced and would encourage anyone considering EV to try it.

That's a pity about that black one - I thought it was well specced and in good nick, though I agree about the interior colour. As far as the spare is concerned, I just carry a full sized one in the (massive!) trunk when I'm on long distance trips, so it's not been an issue. I also have 19 rims as winters, but definitely prefer the looks of the 21s, by a long, long way...

I've heard good things about the MK EV centre and it's good to see them doing deals like that - please report back on what you thought of the ID4.

[ainarssems]

Joined the club, 2016 90D.

[tintin]

Originally Posted by ainarssems

Joined the club, 2016 90D.

Welcome! Good choice

[Adrian E]

Nice colour as well Presume this nets you the free supercharger access?

Mate of mine who has had (from memory) 4 Teslas now (model S and model X), as well as buying a couple of Model 3s for staff, switched to the Porsche Taycan. It ended up going back after a few months as the dealer couldn't fix various faults with it, and he's now back in another Tesla!

[steamship]

Originally Posted by Adrian E

...switched to the Porsche Taycan. It ended up going back after a few months as the dealer couldn't fix various faults with it,

Just curious, don't suppose you know if it was a fault with charging, as I've watched a couple of Shmee150 videos where he had some serious charging issues with his Taycan.

[ainarssems]

Originally Posted by Adrian E

Nice colour as well Presume this nets you the free supercharger access?

Yes, free supercharging for the life of vehicle. That was my most important criteria. Electricity prices have gone up a lot and while it is still cheaper per mile to charge EV at home than fill up with diesel I would not be surprised if after couple of years it's no longer the case. Public charging prices have gone up, cheapest is 16p/kWh for slowest chargers for members that pay monthly fee as well. Tesla supercharging is from 24p for those who do not qualify for free and other public supercharging is 40-60p which is already the same level as filling up diesel and it can only go up.

Now later 2017+ Model S without free supercharging are more expensive but give it couple of years and 2016 with free SC will be worth more than 2018 without it.

[tintin]

Originally Posted by Adrian E

Nice colour as well Presume this nets you the free supercharger access?

Plus this too

[Adrian E]

Originally Posted by steamship

Just curious, don't suppose you know if it was a fault with charging, as I've watched a couple of Shmee150 videos where he had some serious charging issues with his Taycan.

There were various issues, but not aware of all the specifics. Most seemed to be quality control/usability related and it spent as long in the dealer as it did in his possession. Don't think charging was one of the faults, but will ask when I next see him.

[IT]

Originally Posted by ainarssems

Joined the club, 2016 90D.

Nice

Will be interested to hear your thoughts on it after driving it for a few weeks.

I'm coming up on 2 years end of the month for mine.

I can't recall ever having a car for 2 years in my life..... !