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Old 10th August 2017, 09:16 AM
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Maybe a bit late to the game but the next step in ICE seems to have arrived. There is potential for a 63g/km and 100mpg car in a Mazda 2 but with petrol and not diesel.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-new...ne-due-in-2019
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Old 10th August 2017, 10:05 AM
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Maybe a bit late to the game but the next step in ICE seems to have arrived. There is potential for a 63g/km and 100mpg car in a Mazda 2 but with petrol and not diesel.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-new...ne-due-in-2019
Too little, too late - we're close to the tipping point against ICE cars, as reflected in VAG recent R&D announcement on EV development. This Mazda would've been in the works before that point, but I can't see there being many more ICE R&D ideas coming to fruition from now on.
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Old 12th August 2017, 02:13 PM
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Internal combustion is not dead yet!
There's plenty of emissions targets still to fulfill which will lead to engine improvements.

Skyactiv is already a great technology which I can't understand why more manufacturers haven't adopted similar technology (14:1 compression with direct injection). Other engine development leaders turbocharge I suppose...

Skyactiv X is an interesting technology if it works on a mass production scale. Cleaner emissions than diesel with similar fuel consumption... Renders diesel obsolete, at least in cars...


It's only some Europe and some Asian countries who have announced zero emission target dates so far.
Australia hasn't - range issues, and a bit of bloody mindedness
America hasn't - ignorance and range issues if they actually considered it. Ironically, some States are ahead of their federal government in zero emission targets.
The majority of countries looking at EV targets will allow hybrid technology even in 2050. Technology itself will probably trump them by then anyway.

The Pommie imaginary ambition of "no internal combustion vehicles on the road by 2050" is unrealistic in regards to classic cars. Finding fuel for them may be an issue however, if all service stations convert to charging stations.
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Hi,

Agreeing with an Ausie is hard on principle but yes, too right mate!

I have seen Cinema, vinyl records, marriage and school exams revived and re-worked, my brass is NOT in electric only vehicles.

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Old 25th August 2017, 12:53 AM
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There's a lot of logistical issues with electric cars too.
For example, English cities are full of terraced houses with no off-street parking. Cars are never parked in the same place one day to another. How are those car owners going to charge their cars?
It's not an insurmountable problem, but who's going to install the infrastructure? Who's going to repair it when it inevitably breaks or gets vandalised? Who's going to pay for the power?
Or are they banking on some breakthrough to solve these problems? Or pass it onto the private sector as normal...


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Old 25th August 2017, 02:08 AM
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There's a lot of logistical issues with electric cars too.
For example, English cities are full of terraced houses with no off-street parking. Cars are never parked in the same place one day to another. How are those car owners going to charge their cars?
It's not an insurmountable problem, but who's going to install the infrastructure?
That's easy:already solved - EVs charge via sockets built into lamp posts - several of my London-based Tesla buddies do this on a daily basis: providers exist, and it's just like signing up for any other utility. Sure beats having to move your car to drive to a petrol station and then come back and find your parking space has been taken. Especially in bad weather

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That depends on having enough street lights on the street and then being able to park near it! On my street there are about three street lights and 15 houses, each with about 2 cars at least. Some can clearly charge at home, but then will they able to boil the kettle at the same time...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...fuse-national/

There are a lot of things which need to be in place in the next 20 years, I'm sure it's possible as technology improves but only time will tell.
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We have very few street lights on our road, though there is one exactly at the entrance to my drive.
Even more conveniently, because it's on a corner, the only place you can park to use it is on my drive. Somehow I don't think that one will ever get converted for charging, unless they all are.....
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Old 25th August 2017, 08:46 PM
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I don't think combustion is dead yet (just lose the 'internal' part).
The next level will be using combustion to generate electricity directly for electric motors.
This is the most efficient way to turn combustion into motion. There are already technologies for very efficient conversion of heat to electricity if certain companies are to be believed. Combustion is of course very efficient at producing heat.
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