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2nd May 2022, 08:28 PM
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Isofix Guide recommendations
Well lockdown has been "productive" in our family. We went in to it with one grandson, living some distance away and now have three. Two are quite nearby and there are "expectations" re child care and transport.....
 .As a side effect the extended family has quite a collection of child car seats and some are coming our way. I know my S8 has Isofix but studying the instructions for one seat that we're likely to use quite soon it mentions Isofix Guides - plastic surrounds to help with fitting and (maybe) protect the seats too? A previous owner had child seats fitted, there are witness marks in the leather, and I know the mounting bars are pretty deep down (unlike our Volvo where they're very accessible). So are all Isofix Guides much the same or can anyone recommend specific makes or designs/features that are best for a late FL D2? Especially one that is having all it's leather "revitalised" this month! 
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2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions, ski hatch retrofit; extended leather. Aftermarket DVB-T, reversing camera and full XCarlink (Bluetooth etc.). 2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation".  (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!  Finally: gone, but not forgotten..... 1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors. e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course.  (internal dimming mirror added later)1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer. And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850! 
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3rd May 2022, 06:18 AM
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Hi Andrew
Congrats on the expanding dynasty 👍 I used the Isofix in my FE and found that all the available guides supplied with seats are too ‘chunky’ to fit in the gap without damaging the seat. Audi sold specific ones for the d2 but I’ve NEVER seen any for sale. I’ll see if I can find the part number, as I’m sure I have an eBay search set up I found the best option, with a ‘2 point’ Isofix with support leg into the footwell was to just be really careful installing the seat without guides. There is space to do it and you can feel the bars by hand on installing to make sure you’re lined up Worth noting that Isofix has changed a lot over time. Any seat that requires a top tether can’t be fitted in the d2 (there is no upper anchorage in the car). For ‘baby seats’ and early forward facing you need a support leg into the footwell to prevent forward rotation in an accident. Maxicosi worked well for us, but our sprog turned 12 today so we’re a bit out of date! Once ours was using an adult seat belt we moved on to BeSafe which holds the seat in place with Isofix and offers slightly better protection in side impacts as a result. So very much depends on height and weight of children as to best options I was involved in the development and regulation of Isofix BITD - something I’m very pleased to have been involved with
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===SOLD===2002 Audi S8 D2 Final Edition (yes, really) in Avus Silver with purple extended leather===SOLD=== 2011 S5 Sportback in Phantom Black with black Super Sports leather, 9x20s, tech pack high, adaptive xenon plus, intelligent key, memory seats pack, sunroof, B&O, Audi Drive Select & quattro Sports Diff, DAB, parking system plus 2015 VW Golf GTI Performance Pack in Carbon Grey with black Vienna leather, tech pack (Discovery Pro nav & Dynaudio), DCC, factory towbar and retrofit RVC
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3rd May 2022, 06:28 AM
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i fitted Isofix seats for the grandkids but didnt know about guides. The fixing points are deeply recessed but I didnt find it too problematic or damaging to fit. What I did fit were were seat protectors to avoid the seat bases damaging the seats and to collect the inevitable detritus which seems to collect around small people - even with a ban on eating in the car (which I was forced to overturn
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2002 D2 S8 – Ming Blue, Valcona leather, Vavona wood insert, solar sunroof (to be fitted), Heated rear seats, extended leather pack, 18” Avus, ski hatch, Bose, auto dim rear view mirror, rear blind.
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3rd May 2022, 06:56 AM
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Absolutely agree on the recommendation of a seat protector - we used an earlier version of this one:
https://www.besafe.com/en/product/car-seat-protector/ Helps stop the leather getting that 'squished' look that you can often spot in sales adverts for cars that've had baby seats fitted for a long time
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===SOLD===2002 Audi S8 D2 Final Edition (yes, really) in Avus Silver with purple extended leather===SOLD=== 2011 S5 Sportback in Phantom Black with black Super Sports leather, 9x20s, tech pack high, adaptive xenon plus, intelligent key, memory seats pack, sunroof, B&O, Audi Drive Select & quattro Sports Diff, DAB, parking system plus 2015 VW Golf GTI Performance Pack in Carbon Grey with black Vienna leather, tech pack (Discovery Pro nav & Dynaudio), DCC, factory towbar and retrofit RVC
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3rd May 2022, 08:00 AM
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Thanks for the tips folks.
The first seat to arrive is a Joie Spin 360 (0-18kg) which has a support leg but no top tether.  It didn't include any guides so I won't bother looking for any; the struts seem to extend a long way to help with installation so hopefully it will work.
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2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions, ski hatch retrofit; extended leather. Aftermarket DVB-T, reversing camera and full XCarlink (Bluetooth etc.). 2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one! Finally: gone, but not forgotten..... 1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors. e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer. And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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3rd May 2022, 08:18 AM
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Looks a decent seat that - I'd be slightly concerned about the height of the Isofix bracket above the 'jaw' in terms of how much upwards force that'll apply on the leather, but with the jaws fully extended it should be possible to trial fit without risking any damage, just to make sure.
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===SOLD===2002 Audi S8 D2 Final Edition (yes, really) in Avus Silver with purple extended leather===SOLD=== 2011 S5 Sportback in Phantom Black with black Super Sports leather, 9x20s, tech pack high, adaptive xenon plus, intelligent key, memory seats pack, sunroof, B&O, Audi Drive Select & quattro Sports Diff, DAB, parking system plus 2015 VW Golf GTI Performance Pack in Carbon Grey with black Vienna leather, tech pack (Discovery Pro nav & Dynaudio), DCC, factory towbar and retrofit RVC
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3rd May 2022, 09:31 AM
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I put the guides in the D4 and the Allroad. They are very chunky things and separate the upper and lower seat cushions quite a bit. So much so that I took them out of the D4 as I fear for how well the cushions/leather would "rebound" after we no longer needed them. Although they are staying in the Allroad, I'm expecting to see permanent rectangular apertures in the seat at a later date.
Regarding the seat protector, we initially bought one that went about 8 inches up the back of the seat. Foresight was on holiday that day. We've now replaced it with one that goes right up to the base of the headrest. It's surprising how far they can get their grubby little shoes up on your nice leather.
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Dean Future work on "Red Dwarf": Fridge, solar sunroof, radio-controlled clock, interior and exterior dimming mirrors, Alcantara headlining/pillars/rear shelf, rear US outer lights, passenger memory seat, rear electric (lumbar and headrest) heated seats, Servotronic. __________________ Current: 2002 A8 D2 S8 FE - "Red Dwarf" - Misano Red - Platinum/Silver Interior, PDC, Sat Nav Plus with BOSE and hidden Dension Bluetooth, Multi-changer, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, FE Wheels, Phone Prep with Nokia 6210, Detachable Towbar, Rear Blinds, S8 plate but no other optional extras 1st Place Winner - A8Parts Annual UK Meet 2018 1st Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2018 2nd Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2019 2002 A8L D2 with a factory fitted S8 engine and drivetrain - "Evergreen" - Irish Green Pearl (TBC) - magnolia leather seats with magnolia door cards/door trims, magnolia leather head-lining, extended leather pack 3 (dark green leather dash, upper door cards, steering wheel, lower dash, centre tunnel and rear parcel shelf), factory black external trim (in lieu of chrome), self-levelling suspension, Servotronic, Brembo brakes, "gullideckel" / "man-hole cover" / "pie-plate" 8Jx18 polished 10-hole design wheels typically seen on the W12, Park Distance Control, heated windscreen, multifunction steering wheel, Vavona burl (burr-walnut) wood inserts with cream/magnolia door switch trims, phone preparation to the front with Nokia 6091 phone, phone preparation to the rear with Nokia 6091 phone on the central rear console, third phone preparation in the rear centre console, rear blinds, rear headrest release feature, rear electric heated seats with lumbar and recline function (the rear passenger seat has the facility to move the front passenger seat forward), BOSE audio, Rear Screen Entertainment (RSE) with dual factory fitted Alpine screens, integrated DVD player (under the centre of the rear bench with 4 DVD storage slots) and two remote controls (the controls and inputs for the RSE are in the rear centre console and the screens can operate independently of each other,) factory supplied leather headrest covers to hide the rear screens, rear vanity mirrors (standard A8L), dark green rear wedge footrests with cream piping, front passenger memory seat, dark green floor carpeting and mats – piped in cream, rear slumber pillows for the headrests, integrated fridge with integrated tumblers inside the rear centre headrest bar compartment, solar roof, auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors, factory driver’s seat fire extinguisher, tire pressure monitoring system, first aid kit, 12 V socket in the boot, TRACKER, derestricted – top speed is 155mph plus 2007 A6 Allroad C6 3.0TDI Quattro - Highland Green (Audi Exclusive Colour) - Cream leather interior with Wood, Advanced MMI, Keyless, Bose, Advanced PDC, Sunroof, Heated Memory Seats, Adaptive Xenons, Adaptive Air Suspension, Servotronic Previous (went to good homes): 2002 A8 D2 2.8 Quattro Sport - "Big Red" - Tornado Red (Special Order) - Twist Interior, PDC, Passenger Memory Seats, Symphony II with BOSE, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, Auto-dimming Mirrors, 20" FE Wheels, Servotronic Steering 2002 A8 D2 2.8 Quattro Sport - Aqua Blue Pearl - Twist Interior, PDC, Sat Nav Plus with BOSE, Multi-changer, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, Auto-dimming Mirrors, Avus Wheels 
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3rd May 2022, 11:01 AM
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I'm using mine as a daily family car and have two isofix seats fitted. I've started to use Britax more so and wouldn't be without isofix for the older ones (when they start using the 3-point belt), it means the seat will at least stay in place when they get out.
I did have an issue with an isofix base early on as the jaws were too think to reach the anchors so had to secure it with the seatbelt instead. I've never used the guides either but have spare ones around as some seats supply them. They are rather chunky and with the seat protector in place the only real damage to the leather would be deep down under the backrest where it can't be seen anyway.
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Cars... '93 Audi Coupe 2.0 Alpine White (sold) '99 Audi S4 Merlin Purple - K04 upgrade to 412hp (sold) '00 Audi S8 Agate Grey (Sold )'11 Audi Q7 4.2tdi Unknown Red (Classic Red Pearl Effect - thanks MJ) 
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