A8 Parts Forum  

Go Back   A8 Parts Forum > A8 D2 > D2 - Axles, Brakes, Suspension and Steering

D2 - Axles, Brakes, Suspension and Steering Brakes, Springs, shocks, steering racks, steering columns, suspension arms, wheel hubs etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 7th May 2012, 03:04 PM
mannyo mannyo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Blandford, Dorset
Posts: 1,974
Default Urgent help - Front brake problem?

I drove 170 miles on Friday evening with no problem whatsoever, brakes fine all working perfectly.

I then drove 50 miles yesterday (Sunday) at 70 mph or so, and when I got out to fill up with petrol there was a horrid smell of hot brakes which kind of reminded me of the smell you get after being on track and working the brakes very hard. I felt the temperature of the wheels and they were all even, so put it down to something in the air or another car.

Today I went for a short drive around town at a max of 40mph, and when I got out even after only driving 5 miles there was the same smell. I then used the old nose and tracked the problem to the front drivers side wheel. The brake disk was noticeably hotter than the passenger side.

The brakes still work fine, there is no pull in any direction and when not on throttle the car feels the same as usual, so I am not sure what the issue could be.

I need to get this sorted, I am still more than 140 miles from home and in 5 weeks I am driving the car across Spain from north to south.
__________________
Manny
2004 A4 1.8T Sport Cabriolet, 89K Miles
Past
2004 D3 A8 3.7 Quattro, Xenon, Bose, Blinds, Solar Sunroof, TV, ACC, phone and almost every option. 168K miles rising slowly
with retrofit AMI and DVB-T in place of Analogue
2003 Volvo S60 D5 SE Manual, 197K miles.
2001 D2 A8 3.7 QS, Bi-Xenon, Bose, Blinds, Electric Everything, retrofitted RNS-D, 191K Miles
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 7th May 2012, 03:07 PM
HPsauce HPsauce is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Chilterns, almost over HS2!
Posts: 8,377
Default

Could it be a bearing rather than the brakes?
__________________
2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions, ski hatch retrofit; extended leather. Aftermarket DVB-T, reversing camera and full XCarlink (Bluetooth etc.).
2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 7th May 2012, 03:10 PM
47p2's Avatar
47p2 47p2 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,667
Default

Sticking caliper
__________________
.





Nite Blue 3.0L SE Quattro
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 7th May 2012, 03:22 PM
mannyo mannyo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Blandford, Dorset
Posts: 1,974
Default

Can anything be done to free it up, its been fine up until yesterday.
__________________
Manny
2004 A4 1.8T Sport Cabriolet, 89K Miles
Past
2004 D3 A8 3.7 Quattro, Xenon, Bose, Blinds, Solar Sunroof, TV, ACC, phone and almost every option. 168K miles rising slowly
with retrofit AMI and DVB-T in place of Analogue
2003 Volvo S60 D5 SE Manual, 197K miles.
2001 D2 A8 3.7 QS, Bi-Xenon, Bose, Blinds, Electric Everything, retrofitted RNS-D, 191K Miles
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 7th May 2012, 03:24 PM
mannyo mannyo is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Blandford, Dorset
Posts: 1,974
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HPsauce View Post
Could it be a bearing rather than the brakes?
Wheel bearings were fine at the MOT 4 weeks ago, and the car has only done 420 miles since then, there are no other symptoms like bearing noise and the wheel was not hot just the brake disk which was a lot hotter than the passenger one.
__________________
Manny
2004 A4 1.8T Sport Cabriolet, 89K Miles
Past
2004 D3 A8 3.7 Quattro, Xenon, Bose, Blinds, Solar Sunroof, TV, ACC, phone and almost every option. 168K miles rising slowly
with retrofit AMI and DVB-T in place of Analogue
2003 Volvo S60 D5 SE Manual, 197K miles.
2001 D2 A8 3.7 QS, Bi-Xenon, Bose, Blinds, Electric Everything, retrofitted RNS-D, 191K Miles
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 7th May 2012, 03:33 PM
47p2's Avatar
47p2 47p2 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Scotland
Posts: 1,667
Default

I would say it's definitely not a bearing.

The piston. in the caliper will be corroded, if you can obtain new seals than remove the pistons and carefully clean the rust off them with wet & dry and rebuild. It doesn't always work as it depends on how bad they are corroded.

Easier option is to fit new calipers cost is somewhere in the region of £65 to £80 to £149 each depending on type Link
__________________
.





Nite Blue 3.0L SE Quattro

Last edited by 47p2; 7th May 2012 at 03:51 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 7th May 2012, 03:44 PM
Architex_mA8tey's Avatar
Architex_mA8tey Architex_mA8tey is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London/Oxford/Swindon
Posts: 7,648
Default

I would agree - sticking caliper piston. I've had one do the same and only 1 of the four on the same wheel sticking has caused the disk to warp slightly when it's heated up too much and you can feel uneven travel when braking.
When we looked at it on Saturday it was caused by water/crud getting past a piston seal that wasn't on properly and causing the piston to stick.
It's not a very old caliper and we were able to free it off so I've ordered some new discs and pads today which will be fitted on Thursday. We will clean up the caliper and see how it goes.
Got a great price on Pagid OEM discs and pads from ECP as they've got a 30% off sale on over the bank holiday weekend (code holiday30) and the whole lot for the front (2 discs and all front pads) was £108 incl vat and carriage, so not too bad.
__________________

Confidence is the feeling you have before you know better . . . .
Audi A8 D2 3.7 Quattro Sport 1999 FL - Melange
2nd Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2012 at Edersee
20" x 9" Bentley GTC Wheels with 385mm W12 Front Discs & Bentley Caliper Covers, Front Lowered on Coilovers, Xenons, Combined DRLs and LED Foglights to modified OEM front fog lamp position, Alcantara/Leather, Full Black Alcantara headlining + pillars and blind shelf, Bespoke Flat Bottomed Sports Steering Wheel, Dark Myrtle Wood, Autodim Mirrors, Bose, Blinds, Digital TV, Ski Hatch, Modified rear exhaust section for extra V8 Burble
Audi S8 D2 Final Edition 2002, Avus Silver with Red Leather Interior
Tiptronic with Sport mode button, Sony rear entertainment package, Bose sound system, Audi Navigation Plus, 20 inch Final Edition alloys, Full Cat Back Stainless Milltek exhaust, giving a great V8 burble
Audi A8L D2 4.2 Petrol with LPG - Ebony Black
Audi A8L D4 FL 4.0T Petrol twin turbo - Havana Black
Audi A2 1.6 FSi Sport - Dolphin Grey with Votex body kit and Red Leather Interior
and some other A8's A8L's and Mercs

Last edited by Architex_mA8tey; 7th May 2012 at 03:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 7th May 2012, 05:51 PM
PsYcHe PsYcHe is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blantyre, Scotland
Posts: 4,136
Default

Let us know what you think of the Pagids, as that's two so far I've heard of where we didn't think they were that great.
__________________
2010 Jag XF 3.0D Portfolio S

I know.. I know..

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 7th May 2012, 07:26 PM
Architex_mA8tey's Avatar
Architex_mA8tey Architex_mA8tey is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London/Oxford/Swindon
Posts: 7,648
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PsYcHe View Post
Let us know what you think of the Pagids, as that's two so far I've heard of where we didn't think they were that great.
Strangely I had a look at what a load of different forums said and they didn't seem to come out too badly, but you've got to remember I'm lucky if I'm doing 4 or 5000 miles a year and due to the low profiles I'm not trying to drive it too fast either so I guess its each to their own. My last ones have been somewhat wasted/ruined by the sticking caliper so I'd have been even more upset if they were mega expensive ones. . . lol

Anyways I will give them a run up to the annual meet soon and let everyone know. It seems the Ferodos have a good name for brake pads but what does everyone else think? Seems to be one of those areas where 10 people will all have a different opinion!
__________________

Confidence is the feeling you have before you know better . . . .
Audi A8 D2 3.7 Quattro Sport 1999 FL - Melange
2nd Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2012 at Edersee
20" x 9" Bentley GTC Wheels with 385mm W12 Front Discs & Bentley Caliper Covers, Front Lowered on Coilovers, Xenons, Combined DRLs and LED Foglights to modified OEM front fog lamp position, Alcantara/Leather, Full Black Alcantara headlining + pillars and blind shelf, Bespoke Flat Bottomed Sports Steering Wheel, Dark Myrtle Wood, Autodim Mirrors, Bose, Blinds, Digital TV, Ski Hatch, Modified rear exhaust section for extra V8 Burble
Audi S8 D2 Final Edition 2002, Avus Silver with Red Leather Interior
Tiptronic with Sport mode button, Sony rear entertainment package, Bose sound system, Audi Navigation Plus, 20 inch Final Edition alloys, Full Cat Back Stainless Milltek exhaust, giving a great V8 burble
Audi A8L D2 4.2 Petrol with LPG - Ebony Black
Audi A8L D4 FL 4.0T Petrol twin turbo - Havana Black
Audi A2 1.6 FSi Sport - Dolphin Grey with Votex body kit and Red Leather Interior
and some other A8's A8L's and Mercs
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 7th May 2012, 07:46 PM
PsYcHe PsYcHe is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Blantyre, Scotland
Posts: 4,136
Default

The Pagids worked OK, but just didn't feel they had the 'bite' of the previous ones. But for the price (I got mine on special from ECP too), they were good. The ferodo (DS2500?) always seem to get a good write up.
__________________
2010 Jag XF 3.0D Portfolio S

I know.. I know..

Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.