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17th May 2012, 08:32 AM
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The comfort of the economy
No, not the eurozone. Thats fecked, we know that. I'm talking V8 economy...
 I took Frank 2 for a trip to Brum and back yesterday. It was a joy. Genuinely. I've spent so long dissing the standard crud looking seats, I've never sat in them long enough to actually try them out. Likewise, sure, the suspension looks silly stuck up in the air like that, especially with Avus wheels which strictly belong 20 mm closer to the body, but you know what, its supremely comfortable. Id go so far to say that Frank 2 is more comfortable than my D3 was, which is quite plausible as my D3 was a sport etc. I guess I'm still a bit shocked really. Dont get me wrong, I still dislike the look the of the standard car, and the sport / S8 look still looks a million times better imo, but I'm becoming strangely attracted to this car - in its current form, with naff seats and wobbly suspension. It still goes round corners ok, you just have to watch you dont scrape the door mirrors with the body roll, or fall out of the lazy boy settees. And the economy. Its not as good as the 3.0 Tdi obviously, but its a heck of a lot closer than it ought to be. I drove a D2 S8 last night, which was satisfyingly brisk, which was nice, but my god was it bumpy. I think im getting old....  Anyway, back to economy. I dont have any numbers from an S8 to hand, so I'll post what the A8 is capable of, and perhaps an S8 owner can volunteer. This photo is of the car, having had a full tank of regular unleaded, doing a GPS verified 70 mph and after 20 + miles of motorway cruising I'm showing 655 miles in the tank on a level stretch of motorway (ie not downhill) So. My 2 questions: 1) If anyone with an S8 has the inclination to repeat a similar test, what is the range you see ? 2) What RPM are you pulling at 70 ?
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17th May 2012, 08:34 AM
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we both know the range indicated is stupidly optimistic, you won't get anywhere near that, no matter how carefully you drive him
PS your brake pads are worn out
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17th May 2012, 08:39 AM
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Best I ever got from my D2 was just over 500 miles from a tank, on a run to Bracknell, pretty constant 80, and that was about 25mpg, started off showing best part of 700 miles at one point, but drops very quickly after that.
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17th May 2012, 08:40 AM
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Agreed, DIS is optimistic most of the time - Hence I'm interested in the relitive figures, not the absolute possibility.... Range is calculated on a recent average. Its more useful than the all time average or the instant in this case. Brake bads are fine. Its the last dash error I have to fix..... 
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17th May 2012, 08:58 AM
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Best I've seen as range is about 500 "pootling" along the A1(M).
About 2800rpm I think at 70, but why would you be doing that in an S8? 
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17th May 2012, 09:28 AM
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I must be the saddest keeper of mileage/economy data of the D2 S8 owners. I handed over the file from my last S8 to Davids8 with every tank of petrol recorded. I'm doing the same with the current, remapped, S8.
Both, sometimes, would give a range of a little over 500 miles with a full tank, but you're lucky to get 400. And, overall, if you honestly get more than 23mpg form an S8, then you need to enjoy it more!
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17th May 2012, 12:48 PM
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the most indicated range I saw, after filling up and just setting off on the motorway (in France) was just over 500, maybe 525miles.
The most miles I actually dared to cross before filling up was around 425 (all motorway miles at 70mph). Rpm at 70mph was approx 2780 with 18" stock wheels.
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17th May 2012, 06:05 PM
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Maybe it's just me but any petrol car that I have struggles to get over 21mpg. I do mostly local runs and even 1.8 does not do better then 21mpg
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17th May 2012, 07:22 PM
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D3 --> D2? 'Back to basics'? Ian, how can you now live without ACC and B&O? I'm confused.
FL 2002 3.7 QS @ 70 mph. This car is on 245/50R18 tyres. With such taller tyres speedo matches with GPS speed.
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17th May 2012, 07:36 PM
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I'm confused.....
I get 375 to 400 miles per tank.....maxiumum... without to much Hooliganism.... At 70 mph I am at about 2 200 RPM...
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