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Old 19th June 2012, 10:23 AM
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Typical of todays 'fitters'
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Old 19th June 2012, 01:46 PM
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All the more reason to have the blasted thing deleted.
We are Euro 5 emission-regime R&D guinea pigs on the road and at our expense.
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Old 19th June 2012, 03:21 PM
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I am glad I was sat down when I called my local dealer for a quote, 7.5-8 hours @£145 per hour +VAT, so over £1,300 in labour, oh and £47.86 for the actual part

Actually it was worse than that, their tech suggested it was actually the lambda sensor as "your car doesn't have a DPF sir"! When I explained that it clearly did have TWO of them and maybe he should check they spoke to the master tech who advised that apparently they need to "remove the gearbox", which is weird because that's not what ELSA says but what do I know!? In any case, not very confidence inspiring!

Now awaiting a call back from a couple of indi's who hopefully will know their arse from their elbow!
It is quite unbelievable that you are being asked for £145/hr for a technician who doesnt appear able find his ar$e with both hands! I mean, £1160 day is getting towards the cost of a lawyer or accountant from PWC (not that they would be any good for this - or much else - but you know what I mean!)
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Old 19th June 2012, 08:53 PM
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It is quite unbelievable that you are being asked for £145/hr for a technician who doesnt appear able find his ar$e with both hands! I mean, £1160 day is getting towards the cost of a lawyer or accountant from PWC (not that they would be any good for this - or much else - but you know what I mean!)
Don't knock a decent dayrate

The Tech is getting about 20% of that if he's lucky, the rst goes to the posh showroom and all the managers etc.
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Old 20th June 2012, 08:53 PM
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Well I have a second quote from another local dealer, 4.8 hours at £105+VAT and they seemed to talk some sense recommending changing BOTH sensors as the main cost is labour - £700. Better but still seems a lot!

I have called a couple of local indi's but they don't seem keen to take it on, I am awaiting calls back but I guess I won't hold my breath, will chase tomorrow and if I get nowhere will book it in with the dealer for an easy life.

I want to keep the DPFs, having owned many diesels I actually like the lack of black crud at the smelly end of the car, much more civilised especially when you boot it! I know it costs me a bit of extra fuel but I personally think it is worth it to keep the original spec. To remove the DPFs I guess I'd need a remap which is likely to have insurance implications would (in my mind at least) give me some concerns about reliability..... perhaps it's just me!?!?
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So I now have prices from three dealers, in turn they quoted for 7.5-8, 4.8 and 2.5 hours to do the same job of replacing both sensors!?!? All main dealers, all quoting for exactly the same work and a price range of £410 to over £1400. I have no idea how they plucked those figures from out of the air!?!?

I spoke with a local VAG indy who are going to replace both for ~£200, booked in for a week on Monday as that was as soon as they have a free ramp

Amazingly the dealers could all fit it in "tomorrow", I wonder how busy they aren't or if they ever wonder why!?!?
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lol thats outrageous - almost worth a letter the Audi H/Office at Milton Keynes to highlight the crazy variations and the un-comptetitiveness of their workshops on this occasion, you never know what they might say or offer if you are "disappointed enough"!
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At 125k your DPF's don't have much life left in them. So whilst you might pay £800 to replace these sensors, unfortunately you might do this and then your DPF's are too far along to work properly.

Most DPF's give up around your mileage. Granted your V setup means less flows throught them but still.... I would gut and remove.
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I've just had the DPF removed. She's sweet as a nut and at a fraction of the cost. Wouldn't hesitate to do it again on another A8 as I now know I've never got to worry about it again.

I actually did the filter removal myself and just had the ECU reflashed. Easy peezy

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Just a quick outcome and hopefully my last post on this subject, after a lot of research into the potential issues and longevity with the DPFs on my car I decided to keep them! There doesn't seem to be any specific cases of failure on this engine so long as the car is services properly, but if there is then I will probably get them cleaned or replaced rather than removed because of the potential insurance issues of exhaust "modification" and required re-map.

I had both sensors replaced by a local independent VAG specialist and all seems to be back to normal. Total cost £290 in the end as I needed to get some exhaust clamps replaced too.

If anyone is needing work in the Manchester area I can highly recommend VAGtechnik, they did a good job for a much more reasonable cost than any other dealer/garage I tried and didn't just make it up as they go along like the main dealers seemed to be doing!
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