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Old 21st December 2019, 11:34 AM
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If i disconnected the airbag then I would have to clear a code, no?

I have a cheap ebay cable and vwtool but am reluctant to disconnect in case I get an airbag light in the cluster which I am unable to extistinguish... If you could reassure or guide me then I could be persuaded to disconnect the airbag connector from the steering wheel.

Did you want a view of the connector unconnected?

I will go down fighting on this one. This car should be enjoyed and not mothballed or destroyed!
If you keep ignition off while airbag is disconnected it will not register fault code. Even if you have ignition on with airbag disconnected it will register fault code but light will go off when the airbag is connected again. Fault code will remain in controller but light will be out. Fault code will delete itself if it does not repeat for next 30 or 40 ignition cycles.
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Old 21st December 2019, 11:39 AM
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I know most people disconnect battery when disconnecting airbag, I guess it's a fair safety measure for just in case but if everything is working as it should there is no reason why. I disconnected and reconnected plenty of airbags with battery connected and never had any problems.
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Old 21st December 2019, 11:41 AM
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If you keep ignition off while airbag is disconnected it will not register fault code. Even if you have ignition on with airbag disconnected it will register fault code but light will go off when the airbag is connected again. Fault code will remain in controller but light will be out. Fault code will delete itself if it does not repeat for next 30 or 40 ignition cycles.
Thank you for that excellent and informative information.

I will take a couple of extra pics and post them here tomorrow. I wonder if there are any other views that it would be wise to capture whilst I am there?
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Old 21st December 2019, 11:54 AM
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I know most people disconnect battery when disconnecting airbag, I guess it's a fair safety measure for just in case but if everything is working as it should there is no reason why. I disconnected and reconnected plenty of airbags with battery connected and never had any problems.
Also great information. Thanks very much! Not being overly experienced with Audi's - or cars in general- I have been accustomed to relying upon the repair manuals - ELSAWIN in this case.


I guess I am a little spooked at the prospect of the airbag going bang in my face. Thank you for your reassurance, ainarssems.
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Old 21st December 2019, 02:39 PM
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In particular, I found this passage very interesting. ...
..."We still haven't concluded whether there's actually a real problem or not, but we didn't want to wait for the [coroner's inquest].

"We're giving them the option to rent a car, we can buy back your car. We're working with each and every customer to ensure that they're mobile and that they're being looked after even though it's a 20-year old car.

"We'll store it if someone wants to keep it – if it's a collector's car. There's a time to repair it; we can store it for them until that time..."
Now that is the right way to conduct a business. Imagine the cost involved in the storage of 12,000 cars (should everyone opt for it), and for as long as it takes to remedy.

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Ironically enough, I watched this video the day he published it. Australian humour, but true in everything he said. I like it.
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Old 22nd December 2019, 03:50 AM
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Did you happen to get a larger pic of the whole back of the airbag, and also the connector?
Here are some more pics...

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...I will take a couple of extra pics and post them here tomorrow
I hope they are good enough.





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Old 22nd December 2019, 09:10 AM
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Thanks. That looks to be a slightly different construction to UK bags - we usually have a connector on the airbag itself, although the yellow plug which goes to the clock spring is the same, as is the attachment to the steering column.

I will have a look at the various steering wheels and airbags I have on the shelf and see what I can find
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Old 23rd December 2019, 07:48 AM
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Thanks. That looks to be a slightly different construction to UK bags - we usually have a connector on the airbag itself, although the yellow plug which goes to the clock spring is the same, as is the attachment to the steering column.
That is what I have noticed as I have been scouring the web for a solution to my quandry. A lot of the airbags that I have been able to see pictures of look like this:
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...whereas mine simply has the brown and blue wires attached somehow without a connector.

If the yellow connector to the clock spring is the same then I am guessing that it should work?

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I will have a look at the various steering wheels and airbags I have on the shelf and see what I can find
Thank you from the bottom of my heart!

Do you know whether the post facelift steering wheels can be fitted to the pre facelift vehicles such as mine?
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Old 23rd December 2019, 09:42 AM
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Your airbag is actually similar to mid-90s A4 and 80 where the horn switches are on the bag, whereas most later builds have the switch in the wheel like the one you showed.

As you have the 12mm spline bolt in the centre, the yellow plug, and the two pins from the clock spring I would be confident that a later wheel will bolt on just fine. That is probably the best solution since we know that the wheel and bag will work together.

Since you don't have tiptronic buttons, a wheel from a 2001 B5 A4 or 2001-2003 C5 A6 will work or you. You might be able to find one of those locally which would save a load of shipping cost. If not, then we can source one from our sponsors and I can deal with the onward shipping
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Your airbag is actually similar to mid-90s A4 and 80 where the horn switches are on the bag, whereas most later builds have the switch in the wheel like the one you showed.

As you have the 12mm spline bolt in the centre, the yellow plug, and the two pins from the clock spring I would be confident that a later wheel will bolt on just fine. That is probably the best solution since we know that the wheel and bag will work together.

Since you don't have tiptronic buttons, a wheel from a 2001 B5 A4 or 2001-2003 C5 A6 will work or you. You might be able to find one of those locally which would save a load of shipping cost. If not, then we can source one from our sponsors and I can deal with the onward shipping
OK, I have started looking locally...without success so far. Just to be clear, even though I have not got a tiptronic wheel in my car, could I fit one nevertheless?
For instance, would this item, listed by A8 PARTS on ebay, work for me?

I don’t really care if the buttons actually work. What I am concerned about at this stage, having talked to an Audi dealership today, is passing their inspection in regards to not having an airbag deemed to be on the suspect list. As long as it states that it was manufactured 2000 or later, I don’t think Audi will consider any further action is necessary.


Thank you for your perseverance. I am deeply appreciative of the efforts that you have afforded me in this. Merry Christmas, MikkiJayne, to you and yours!
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