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Old 19th December 2016, 05:42 PM
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Just to add my 2p - I have the same battery that Marcin linked to. I bought mine from www,puredrivebatteries.co.uk.

Oh, and yes, I also had some battery issues after the car was sitting idle during the gearbox repair.
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Old 19th December 2016, 09:01 PM
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IThis maybe worth a look before you change the battery , in battery regulation module find the s o c block ....state of charge just make a note of the battery charge percentage .

Then have a look at the alternator charge output in Amps , from memory engine running with no loads on its about 20 amps or so , fit and code the new battery in and do same tests .

Parasitic drains can be hard to sort and sometimes tie you in knots , I find knowing how much is being drawn helps a little in understanding what it can be .

I've found trying to use a multimeter in series with the battery heavy cables is hard , the surge up when trying to connect the meter often pops the multi meter fuse , just trying to lock the car pulls out alot of Amps ......how do the techs on here go about it ??

I use a shunt across the lead and ' tap up ' off that with a multimeter or use the pico scope low amps clamp and watch the draw wave form ,Roll the boot latch over and lock the car and watch as the amps reduce as modules go to sleep .

So if you have some kind of amps draw it's a case of pulling fuses till you see the draw diminish .....some folk do voltage drop across fuses but you end up at the same result by pulling them .
Thing is ....sometimes one fuse can be powering a system that has a lot of power consumers on it so you still haven't narrowed all the way down when you pull the fuse and see the amps draw go .

My own car had an issue while back flagging quiescent current exceeded ....stage 1 .... stage 2 and so on whilst parked up over night , I left it at work hooked up to the pico on 20amp range clamp over a 24 hour time base and checked scope trace next day .

Periodically it would pull out 9 amps tailing off to 4 amps for around a 6 minute slot , then go back to sleep ......it could do this 10 / 12 times throughout a 12 hour period , then in the morning I would get the battery low message when ignition turned on .

Anyone one to have a pop at what it was ........

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Old 20th December 2016, 01:55 AM
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Air suspension?
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Old 20th December 2016, 08:06 AM
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Air suspension?
This

Periodically for a period of time after locking the car will wake up and check/re level the air suspension using the big reservoir at the back of the car for topups. I think this goes on for 10 hours or until the pressure in the tank is lost. The air compressor does not run, but several ECUs are powered up during the process.

I have intermittent battery issues, but I am putting that down to lack of use, I usually take out more on my short journeys that I put back in. I did some testing and found that after switch off and before the car fully goes to sleep it draws around 10 amps before it finally drops to almost nothing.
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Old 20th December 2016, 08:20 AM
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Yeah, I am hoping that its just a battery, but I have been aware that air suspension does cause hassles like this, I went out this morning and disconnected the CTEK as its fully charged the battery, so have put the car in LIFT mode to see what happens as it will visibly be easier to tell later if the car has dropped.

Interestingly, when I first turned her on the words SAFE came up in the binnacle where you trip distance would usually be, and a loud clicking with a light flicker inside the glovebox

I turned her off, then on again, and both had gone and the car seemed normal once more.

Hopefully the new battery and VCDS will be here before the light dies away and I can swap them over
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I'll keep my fingers crossed
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With mine ......... give you a clue ........ its worse when its wet or been raining .., or i have washed it
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With mine ......... give you a clue ........ its worse when its wet or been raining .., or i have washed it
KESSY, something to do with water ingress in the external lock buttons?
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Correct Matty ..... water getting underneath the external button .....in fact could one of the members just try this for me just for the knowledge......


With car locked up for more than 15 mins or so ( better at night so you can see display around gear stick ) just press the outer door handle button and see if display around gear stick or hazard switch lights up ....and how long it stays lit up .
Because even when they go back off the car is still drawing some current till it goes fully to sleep again
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Old 21st December 2016, 07:22 PM
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Right, my VCDS finally arrived today - just managed to get outside in the pitch black and do a scan, almost wish I hadn't... looks like loads of errors!

I can see a lot are voltage related, so hope that the new battery solves that, will drop it in and code tomorrow, if not, it looks like it'll be something else.

Some of the errors are a little concerning in that there was no CEL light on the dash, so how could it have engine errors and do that?

This was from an auto scan, I also checked the individual modules for the Engine (which it read ok) and the gearbox (also) so don't know why they show as cannot be reached below?
Thursday,22,December,2016,04:03:29:44654
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.4.2 (x64)
Data version: 20161129 DS267.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4E78N003545 License Plate:
Mileage: 110780km-68835mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 4E (4L0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 0E 0F 11 31 15 16 17 19 1D 1E 28 34
36 37 38 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 57 61 62 65 67 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4E78N003545 Mileage: 110780km-68835miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
01-Engine -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
11-Engine II -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
31-Engine other -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1D-Driver Ident. -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 907 181 A
Component: FBS AUDID3 H12 0200
Revision: 02005112 Serial number: AUX3Z0G9332471
Coding: 0412672
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 58BE07CAEBBD0582D1-800C

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 905 852 E
Component: ELV 2040

1 Fault Found:
00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 24
Mileage: 110784 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.21
Time: 18:55:20


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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 D HW: 4E0 959 760 B
Component: Sitzmemory BFS H02 0010
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 4063328
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2446633AE77591628D-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 769 Q HW: 4E0 035 729 A
Component: Interfacebox H43 5570
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 300JT077588153
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 3A7ABD4275F1F792C7-806E

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 611
Component: E0380 BedienteilH01 0050

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000047342

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0108.10.070000000100010149ˇ

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010149ˇ

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 5
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 239
Mileage: 110788 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.21
Time: 18:58:29


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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 B HW: 4E0 820 043 G
Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT 017 0450
Revision: 00000032 Serial number: 00000000132966
Coding: 0123001
Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
VCID: 1C365BDADF05A9A235-8048

3 Faults Found:
00065 - Rear Left Footwell Heater (Z42)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 12
Reset counter: 229
Mileage: 109710 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.01
Time: 20:28:03

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 14.50 V

00066 - Rear Right Footwell Heater (Z43)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 60
Reset counter: 24
Mileage: 109710 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.01
Time: 20:31:52

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 14.30 V

01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71)
003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100011
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 252
Mileage: 109795 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.03
Time: 12:50:09

Freeze Frame:
Voltage: 14.10 V
Temperature: 21.0∞C
(no units): 62.0
(no units): 65.0
Temperature: 9.0∞C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.
Cannot be reached
Unable to communicate with address 09. Are you sure the doors are unlocked?

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Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R199) Labels: 4E0-035-785.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 F HW: 4E0 035 785 C
Component: SG ext.Player H20 0850
Revision: 00000000
Coding: 010000
Shop #: WSC 00481 210 83110
VCID: 2B5488064AAB5E1A4C-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 563 C HW: 4E0 035 563
Component: DAB-Tuner H41 0830
Revision: 00000001 Serial number: KE1276V7600354
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2446633AE77591628D-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 11: Engine II
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

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Address 16: Steering wheel
Cannot be reached

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 951 M HW: 4E0 920 951 M
Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H83 0620
Revision: D03 Serial number: AUDID3G9000135
Coding: 0048423
Shop #: WSC 60756 001 1048576
VCID: 2F6C9C16BEB3223A60-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4L0-910-468.clb
Part No SW: 4L0 910 468 A HW: 4L0 907 468 B
Component: J533__Gateway H06 0060
Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 1100B07A0183FF
Coding: F5F59FFF707E1E00
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2D50861EB4BF502A52-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 1D: Driver Ident. Labels: 4E0-910-218.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 218 A HW: 4E2 905 218 B
Component: FPI_1 H01 0020
Revision: 01000102 Serial number: 10102007110845
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1F4C6CD6CE13B2BAD0-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 1E: Media Player 2 Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 110 E HW: 4E0 035 110 A
Component: MP3-Changer H46 0390
Revision: 00046006 Serial number: AUZ5ZBG3498338
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 1A3A5DC2D531D79227-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 28: HVAC, Rear Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 158 HW: 4E0 919 158 D
Component: KLIMA-STG. FOND 017 0230
Revision: 00000020 Serial number: 00000000060119
Coding: 0000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 61C82A2EB8E7C44AA6-8034

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control
Cannot be reached

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 D HW: 4E0 959 760 B
Component: Sitzmemory FS H02 0010
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
Coding: 4063342
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 2446633AE77591628D-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 P HW: 4E0 919 887 M
Component: MNS ECE H50 1060
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 364J-077721737
Shop #: WSC 00385 210 90050
VCID: 3B74B8467ACBCE9ADC-806E

1 Fault Found:
02927 - DVD Read Error
000 - - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100000
Fault Priority: 6
Fault Frequency: 8
Reset counter: 4
Mileage: 109877 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.04
Time: 13:51:16

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x5846
Hex Value: 0xBFD6
Hex Value: 0x0AFF
Hex Value: 0x0955


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Address 38: Roof Electronics
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E2 959 802 F
Component: T¸rsteuer.FS BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032623
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 204E6F2AF36D8D42E9-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.
Cannot be reached

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Address 47: Sound System Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 466 D HW: 4E0 035 466
Component: BO_D3 H06 0320
Revision: 20S00002 Serial number: 02504070009182
Coding: 0000027
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 275C743696437A7AA8-8072

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 465 B
Component: BO_D3_SLAVE H31 0310

Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 02407070006986

Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0224.07.070000000100030024ˇ

Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 030024ˇ

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A HW: 4E0 907 280 B
Component: ILM Beifahrer H11 0070
Revision: Serial number: 00000000008403
Coding: 0010111
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E3251D2C919BBB2DB-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E2 959 801 F
Component: T¸rsteuer.BF BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032623
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 204E6F2AF36D8D42E9-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake
Cannot be reached

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Address 55: Headlight Range
Cannot be reached

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T HW: 4E0 035 541 S
Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 396J5077580768
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 31689A6EA88734CA76-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: None
Part No SW: 4E0 910 148 E HW: 4E0 919 148
Component: R0078 TVhybridT 0470
Revision: R0H06000 Serial number: 76300801312402
Coding: 0000003
Shop #: WSC 00579 210 91783
VCID: 25407E3EEC4F686A9A-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C HW: 4E0 915 181 C
Component: J0644 BEM H12 0550
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000013901
Shop #: WSC 00385 210 90050
VCID: 204E6F2AF36D8D42E9-8074

Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A
Component: von VA0 0331216G1R
Coding: 344530393135313035412056413030333331323136473152
Shop #: WSC 13149 000 104857

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 801 D
Component: T¸rsteuer.HL BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032623
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E3251D2C919BBB2DB-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 4E0-910-273.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 273 A HW: 4F0 907 273 A
Component: Reifendruck 3 H05
Revision: 00050340 Serial number: 00000700054053
Coding: 0252329
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 204E6F2AF36D8D42E9-8074

1 Fault Found:
01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101101
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset counter: 1
Mileage: 109725 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.02
Time: 15:49:45

Freeze Frame:
(no units): 255.0
Voltage: 0.00 V
(no units): 27.0
Temperature: 0.0∞C
Temperature: 0.0∞C
Temperature: 0.0∞C
Temperature: 0.0∞C


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Address 67: Voice Control Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 S HW: 4E0 035 753 A
Component: SDS 3502 UK H46 0630
Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000710010631
Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
VCID: 3662A97241E913F223-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 802 D
Component: T¸rsteuer.HR BRM005 0180
Coding: 0032623
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 1E3251D2C919BBB2DB-804A

1 Fault Found:
02124 - Exterior Door Handle Switch
008 - Implausible Signal
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 209
Mileage: 109696 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.12.01
Time: 20:27:22


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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 C HW: 4E0 919 283 C
Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0040
Revision: 00H12000 Serial number: 08740727500405
Coding: 0301008
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 23446026E27B965AF4-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 4F1-910-336.lbl
Part No SW: 4F1 910 336 D HW: 4F1 862 335
Component: BTA H09 1120
Revision: 00H09000 Serial number: 00000007518615
Coding: 0060001
Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
VCID: 25407E3EEC4F686A9A-8070

No fault code found.

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