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Old 8th September 2015, 09:10 PM
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Even naming the mode 'Insane', is so cheap, un-classy, cheesy and American.

Now I'm just nitpicking.

Happy to be told why I'm an idiot and what I'm missing.
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Old 8th September 2015, 09:56 PM
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Try "Ludicrous" .
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Old 8th September 2015, 10:34 PM
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P.S There's a video online somewhere (search it) of an RS 7 murdering that new P85D in a drag race.
And yet, the Tesla feels light years faster than the new RS 6 which is only 0.1s slower in acceleration than the RS7. At least up to 60mph anyway, I understand there are some misgivings about Tesla's motorway speed acceleration.
I drove the new RS6 and was driven in the P85D on the same day. The difference is shocking. The numbers are only perhaps 0.2s different, but the feeling is night and day.
In the Tesla you simply want to pass out from the g-force. You should try it.
Although I agree with you 100% about the interior, Audi does interiors so much better, and the big Tesla screen, I just hate it.

Also I want to take back what I said earlier. It seems the Mclaren's production version 0-60 is not that clear cut, Car and Driver got 3.2s to 60mph and they also use rollout. So it appears Tesla's claim that the first release P85D matches the F1 was accurate.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

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Old 8th September 2015, 10:36 PM
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Nope.

I'd like to - I imagine I'd be seriously shocked/impressed with the performance. I dislike the looks, cannot stand a cheap interior, and couldn't give a toss about green credentials or fuel economy.

Has anyone sat in a modern Audi, new Q7/TT for example. They've moved the interior quality and ergonomic game up another few notches, that, combined with the battery tech (that already exists within Audi) will be the way to go IMHO.

I really don't get the Tesla hype.

P.S There's a video online somewhere (search it) of an RS 7 murdering that new P85D in a drag race.
I was very sceptical too until I drove one.

You can't really compare the Tesla to a high performance Audi; they're chalk and cheese. They're not better, just different ... shockingly different, in good way.

You really do have to experience one for yourself though, they really are a game-changer. I guarantee that whatever your expectations of the experience are, the Tesla will exceed them.
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The RS6 I drove in Wales at the annual meet was downright brutal, and that was 4-up.

I suspect that the subjective difference is down to the IMMEDIATE acceleration from standstill whereas the RS6 etc. do (slightly) feed it in, so you can brace yourself to some extent, rather than experience a broken neck.
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I suspect that the subjective difference is down to the IMMEDIATE acceleration from standstill whereas the RS6 etc. do (slightly) feed it in, so you can brace yourself to some extent, rather than experience a broken neck.


I didn't realise you were also at Snowdonia HP; did we meet? I tried to say hello to everyone, but with so many new faces and so little time, I think probably missed talking to a few people. You didn't go out in the Teslas then?



But yeah, from an acceleration comparison point of view, that's precisely it. The RS6 takes time to build torque, whereas the Tesla's torque is full-on the instant you hit the quiet-pedal.

I drove the RS6 in Wales too. What a fantastic machine. It's brutal, with aggressive acceleration and everything you could wish for in a modern petrol-driven car.

The Tesla is something else though. The P85D is shockingly quick accelerating off the line, but the way it does it leaves you feeling like you've been transported into the future. There's just a quiet whir from the electric motors that rapidly rises in pitch, and 3 seconds later you're travelling at over 60mph. The car feels very refined and well-built, and the interior feels years ahead of anything else.

I'd love to own a Tesla, but I couldn't give up my V8 for one. I would have to have both.
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I didn't realise you were also at Snowdonia HP; did we meet? I tried to say hello to everyone, but with so many new faces and so little time, I think probably missed talking to a few people. You didn't go out in the Teslas then?
I'm sure we met, though we were staying at Penmaenuchauf not The George. Irish Green Pearl FL D2 S8 with S8 personal plate (see sig).
Sadly didn't have time to drive a Tesla (though did watch them moving) as we needed to head off on Sunday to visit my aged (and now late) father-in-law.
I think one followed me out as we left and did the 0-60 stunt behind me.

I guess you get used to it, but I still remember the first time I really used the power of my first S8 (grey one in sig pic) when passing someone who was already going quite quickly.
SWMBO was with me and vaguely noticed we had speeded up somewhat, I didn't tell her that we had just added over 50mph in a very short time with no fuss whatsoever.
A brutal neck-snap is no longer something I'm interested in TBH, just smooth excessive power.
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The RS6 I drove in Wales at the annual meet was downright brutal, and that was 4-up.

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But yeah, from an acceleration comparison point of view, that's precisely it. The RS6 takes time to build torque, whereas the Tesla's torque is full-on the instant you hit the quiet-pedal.

I drove the RS6 in Wales too. What a fantastic machine. It's brutal, with aggressive acceleration and everything you could wish for in a modern petrol-driven car.
Did you try holding it on the brake and letting the revs build to 4 - 4.5k and then letting it go. Get those turbos spinning before pulling away so it's delivering boost for the off.
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