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21st August 2022, 06:52 PM
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EVs are NOT the answer to save this planet!
I came across this video and I HATE how EVs are being pushed upon us to fix our climate crisis!
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21st August 2022, 09:08 PM
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#3
21st August 2022, 09:38 PM
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"EVs are using 'dirty' fossil fuel sources for electricity, so are as dirty as petrol/diesel anyway" Not so, for at least two main reasons: 1) the energy efficiency/conversion costs to get this 'fuel' (EV or ICE) to the point of use is much worse for ICE fuel sources than for EVs (see other threads on this forum about that....) and 2) More and more electricity is sourced from clean energy - and increasingly at a cheaper price than the fossil fuel alternative, so this 'argument' from him is becoming more untrue every day. Honestly, this really is not worth watching - or certainly not believing, if you have any sense.
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21st August 2022, 10:03 PM
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I've not even watched it, as I feared it would be full of bull.
Tintin has summed up the big points there. The ICE conversion of fossil fuel to forward motion results in a wasteful creation of heat that is just dissipated into the atmosphere. This, for a start doesnt happen in a controlled power station environment, but yes, the power used to charge EV's might come from fossil fuel, but it absolutely has the potential to come from solar, wind, nuclear and many others, where an ICE never can. But honestly, forget the planet saving stuff. I still love a V8, im not about to start hugging trees. The brutal acceleration, lack of messy expensive servicing and not having to drive out of my way to go to a special shop to buy fuel for my car - Those are my top 3 reasons for driving an EV.
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#5
21st August 2022, 11:02 PM
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I don't have a solution. Why not create an alternative fuel that doesn't pollute?
So destroying the planet by mining for the materials needed for the EV batteries is good? Article of environmental impact of a battery
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#6
22nd August 2022, 07:41 AM
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22nd August 2022, 03:08 PM
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Sadly (from your perspective) that non polluting alternative fuel is electricity Electricity doesn't deliver the visceral joy of a bellowing ICE, but if loosing that leaves the world a cleaner place for our future generations, I think its a price worth paying.
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22nd August 2022, 08:33 PM
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Well there are synthetic fuels being developed and can almost be deemed carbon neutral as they aren't always releasing new carbon into the atmosphere.
https://synhelion.com/news/synthetic-fuels-explained#:~:text=What%20are%20synthetic%20fuels%3 F,used%20all%20around%20the%20world. Not sure what the future will end up being but currently battery seems to be the focus, recycling these will be the key and making sure they can be.
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22nd August 2022, 08:35 PM
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Autos Autos everywhere... (1) 2015 Tesla Model S: (was 85D, now 90D ). Silent and deadly, and very fast... But not as fast as Ian's M3P- (2) 2002 D2 S8 Final Edition: Bulletproof and faultless: Brilliant Black with Extended (Red!) Leather. Three-times winner of Best D2 1st prize (3) 1997 Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo: Scots (! ) Green. Fragile, but beautiful.(4) 2010 Fiat Panda 100HP. White Pandamonium (Final Edition!!). Pure old-fashioned 6-speed go-karting.
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23rd August 2022, 07:13 AM
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