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Old 19th May 2018, 09:46 PM
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I'd need to look, but there was a chap on ebay selling RNS-Es with the correct faceplate and a host of other options available to spec it how you want

For the small additional cost I would definitely get one of the later units with chrome power button - it doesn't then limit you to 4GB SD cards, which are a nightmare to get hold of now (most cheap 4GB SD cards are actually DSHC, just not marked as such, and don't work in the original RNS-E!)

You can also add an AMI interface (Notorious has one mounted in the cubby to the right of the steering column, which acts as a useful place to plug your phone in for charging/music) and I would definitely spec the bluetooth module for the OEM integration (doesn't do bluetooth streaming, unless the specs have changed with newer modules, which they might have)

I never found the lack of directions in the DIS bothered me that much, but maybe the member on here who has figured out CAN messages on the D3 instrument cluster could figure out why it doesn't work and knock up a suitable device to convert the signal?
I'm guessing you mean the RNS-E 2010?

Features of RNS-E
This device offered a wide range of navigation, convenience and entertainment features.

6.5-inch 16:9 ratio color LCD screen with 400x240 resolution
FM/AM radio
2 SD card slots for MP3 storage (up to 4GB each) located behind the LCD screen
DVD-based GPS navigation with traffic message channel support
Route guidance shown on DIS display
Multifunction steering wheel support
Controls and user interface very similar to Multi Media Interface
Rear view camera and parking sensors display (option)
Bluetooth handsfree system (option)
TV tuner (option)
Audio aux-in (option)
Satellite radio (option)
CD changer (option)
Audi Music Interface (option)
Firmware updates available through update CD or with maps DVD
User interface languages: English, German, Dutch, Italian, French, Spanish (other languages available with 3rd party updates)

Features of RNS-E 2010
Higher resolution LCD screen (800x480)
Support for SDHC memory cards
Chrome control knobs instead of plastic ones
MEDIA button instead of CD/TV or CD/SD


It would be a big shame if streaming couldn't be achieved as I am a Spotify man and currently enjoy BT streaming to my Dension. That's an option I'd have to explore.

I didn't know what an AMI was so Googled it and found this:
https://www.audi.co.uk/glossary/a/au...interface.html
I guess this is what you mean. It does suggest the possibility of wireless music playback so perhaps some hope there.
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2002 A8 D2 S8 FE - "Red Dwarf" - Misano Red - Platinum/Silver Interior, PDC, Sat Nav Plus with BOSE and hidden Dension Bluetooth, Multi-changer, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, FE Wheels, Phone Prep with Nokia 6210, Detachable Towbar, Rear Blinds, S8 plate but no other optional extras
1st Place Winner - A8Parts Annual UK Meet 2018
1st Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2018
2nd Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2019
2002 A8L D2 with a factory fitted S8 engine and drivetrain - "Evergreen" - Irish Green Pearl (TBC) - magnolia leather seats with magnolia door cards/door trims, magnolia leather head-lining, extended leather pack 3 (dark green leather dash, upper door cards, steering wheel, lower dash, centre tunnel and rear parcel shelf), factory black external trim (in lieu of chrome), self-levelling suspension, Servotronic, Brembo brakes, "gullideckel" / "man-hole cover" / "pie-plate" 8Jx18 polished 10-hole design wheels typically seen on the W12, Park Distance Control, heated windscreen, multifunction steering wheel, Vavona burl (burr-walnut) wood inserts with cream/magnolia door switch trims, phone preparation to the front with Nokia 6091 phone, phone preparation to the rear with Nokia 6091 phone on the central rear console, third phone preparation in the rear centre console, rear blinds, rear headrest release feature, rear electric heated seats with lumbar and recline function (the rear passenger seat has the facility to move the front passenger seat forward), BOSE audio, Rear Screen Entertainment (RSE) with dual factory fitted Alpine screens, integrated DVD player (under the centre of the rear bench with 4 DVD storage slots) and two remote controls (the controls and inputs for the RSE are in the rear centre console and the screens can operate independently of each other,) factory supplied leather headrest covers to hide the rear screens, rear vanity mirrors (standard A8L), dark green rear wedge footrests with cream piping, front passenger memory seat, dark green floor carpeting and mats – piped in cream, rear slumber pillows for the headrests, integrated fridge with integrated tumblers inside the rear centre headrest bar compartment, solar roof, auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors, factory driver’s seat fire extinguisher, tire pressure monitoring system, first aid kit, 12 V socket in the boot, TRACKER, derestricted – top speed is 155mph plus
2007 A6 Allroad C6 3.0TDI Quattro - Highland Green (Audi Exclusive Colour) - Cream leather interior with Wood, Advanced MMI, Keyless, Bose, Advanced PDC, Sunroof, Heated Memory Seats, Adaptive Xenons, Adaptive Air Suspension, Servotronic

Previous (went to good homes):
2002 A8 D2 2.8 Quattro Sport - "Big Red" - Tornado Red (Special Order) - Twist Interior, PDC, Passenger Memory Seats, Symphony II with BOSE, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, Auto-dimming Mirrors, 20" FE Wheels, Servotronic Steering
2002 A8 D2 2.8 Quattro Sport - Aqua Blue Pearl - Twist Interior, PDC, Sat Nav Plus with BOSE, Multi-changer, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, Auto-dimming Mirrors, Avus Wheels

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Old 19th May 2018, 10:05 PM
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The question I have to ask is, why? And this is a genuine serious question to give time to.

I've been around the same loop more than once and have finally settled on staying OEM with my RNS-D.

Everyone is different, but in the end (for me) changing a mid-1990s system for an early 2000s system didn't really seem to be a priority. I have the car, and enjoy it immensely, for other reasons.

And with the various add-ons I've integrated (Xcarlink, DVB-T tuner and reversing camera) it does everything I need it to anyway.
There's something about the RNS-D that doesn't float my boat and I think it's that square screen that makes it look so dated.
I had an RNS-D in my blue A8. I bought Big Red and prefered the look of the Symphony II over the RNS-D so when it came to hand over the blue car to MJ, I decided that the RNS-D was one of the things that I didn't want transplanting to Big Red.
But now the S8 has the RNS-D (and that awful, IMHO, 90's square screen) I'm keen to change for something that I prefer the look of.
Dropping a Symphony II in the S8 would do the trick but I would just feel stupid doing that, whereas the RNS-E would be a better choice.
After seeing pictures of various RNS-E installations in D2's I think that they don't look out of place whilst also bringing the cabin a little more up to date.
Bluetooth built-in
HiRes screen
16:9 screen to match modern day broadcasts and 16:9 rear camera views
SD card support
Phonebook support
Up-to-date Satnav with TMC (I mean you've gotta love that alone so that you're not having to stick your phone/Google Maps on a phone cradle).

Different tastes I suppose
I also think that it's not a priority but it is a nice-to-have

Mind you, I haven't seen the costs yet. I may well backtrack and share your very views when I see how much it will set me back
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Future work on "Red Dwarf": Fridge, solar sunroof, radio-controlled clock, interior and exterior dimming mirrors, Alcantara headlining/pillars/rear shelf, rear US outer lights, passenger memory seat, rear electric (lumbar and headrest) heated seats, Servotronic.
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1st Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2018
2nd Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2019
2002 A8L D2 with a factory fitted S8 engine and drivetrain - "Evergreen" - Irish Green Pearl (TBC) - magnolia leather seats with magnolia door cards/door trims, magnolia leather head-lining, extended leather pack 3 (dark green leather dash, upper door cards, steering wheel, lower dash, centre tunnel and rear parcel shelf), factory black external trim (in lieu of chrome), self-levelling suspension, Servotronic, Brembo brakes, "gullideckel" / "man-hole cover" / "pie-plate" 8Jx18 polished 10-hole design wheels typically seen on the W12, Park Distance Control, heated windscreen, multifunction steering wheel, Vavona burl (burr-walnut) wood inserts with cream/magnolia door switch trims, phone preparation to the front with Nokia 6091 phone, phone preparation to the rear with Nokia 6091 phone on the central rear console, third phone preparation in the rear centre console, rear blinds, rear headrest release feature, rear electric heated seats with lumbar and recline function (the rear passenger seat has the facility to move the front passenger seat forward), BOSE audio, Rear Screen Entertainment (RSE) with dual factory fitted Alpine screens, integrated DVD player (under the centre of the rear bench with 4 DVD storage slots) and two remote controls (the controls and inputs for the RSE are in the rear centre console and the screens can operate independently of each other,) factory supplied leather headrest covers to hide the rear screens, rear vanity mirrors (standard A8L), dark green rear wedge footrests with cream piping, front passenger memory seat, dark green floor carpeting and mats – piped in cream, rear slumber pillows for the headrests, integrated fridge with integrated tumblers inside the rear centre headrest bar compartment, solar roof, auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors, factory driver’s seat fire extinguisher, tire pressure monitoring system, first aid kit, 12 V socket in the boot, TRACKER, derestricted – top speed is 155mph plus
2007 A6 Allroad C6 3.0TDI Quattro - Highland Green (Audi Exclusive Colour) - Cream leather interior with Wood, Advanced MMI, Keyless, Bose, Advanced PDC, Sunroof, Heated Memory Seats, Adaptive Xenons, Adaptive Air Suspension, Servotronic

Previous (went to good homes):
2002 A8 D2 2.8 Quattro Sport - "Big Red" - Tornado Red (Special Order) - Twist Interior, PDC, Passenger Memory Seats, Symphony II with BOSE, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, Auto-dimming Mirrors, 20" FE Wheels, Servotronic Steering
2002 A8 D2 2.8 Quattro Sport - Aqua Blue Pearl - Twist Interior, PDC, Sat Nav Plus with BOSE, Multi-changer, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, Auto-dimming Mirrors, Avus Wheels

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Old 19th May 2018, 10:12 PM
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Up-to-date Satnav with TMC (I mean you've gotta love that alone so that you're not having to stick your phone/Google Maps on a phone cradle)
I'd question that for starters.
My RNS-D has TMC by the way (and it really works!)....
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1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
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Old 19th May 2018, 11:22 PM
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Well, I'm crossing my fingers that you manage to have yours all fitted for the meet so that I can have a good look and play to see how well it integrates.
Are you planning on a reverse camera in yours as well?
If its done for the meet it will likely be just nav and music, possibly Bluetooth if I have time to pull the gubbins from an A4 donor I have. In time I may add MFSW, reverse camera, AMI, etc.
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Old 20th May 2018, 08:56 AM
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Sergey's car has the works already fitted, so if you want to see the art of the possible have a look at his 3.7 at the meet

I do indeed mean the 2010 on RNS-E - 'my' old S8 had the older version and I was lucky enough to acquire a good selection of 4GB SD cards when they were relatively easy to obtain.

If I'd kept the car I intended to update it to the Mk2 unit and add AMI (which allows you to plug a phone in and stream content that way, not over bluetooth)

You can go aftermarket for bluetooth, which then allows streaming, but the kit isn't cheap at all
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Old 20th May 2018, 09:47 PM
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For the small additional cost I would definitely get one of the later units with chrome power button - it doesn't then limit you to 4GB SD cards, which are a nightmare to get hold of now (most cheap 4GB SD cards are actually DSHC, just not marked as such, and don't work in the original RNS-E!)
Thanks for this - I hadn't realised the early units had this limitation. Having just spent a while searching ebay for non-HC 4GB SD cards and found none at all, this A3 unit I have here is rendered pretty much useless so we'll have to look at Sergey's at the meet instead. I'm going to put my JVC back in
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Old 20th May 2018, 11:03 PM
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They do exist still - worth a question to this lot:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Memory-Cano...in%3A411643031

I'll check what I've got left - I know I gave some to the new owner of my S8 but may have a couple lurking.....

ETA - this is the seller who was able to put together RNS-E units to your specs, so mixing Mk1 A6 C5 fascia with later unit, making the firmware work (later nav never installed in C5 which is coding to use in S8) etc

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/sat_nav_deals

Not listing anything at the moment, but has recent selling history.....
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I'm not sure that Sergey is coming to the annual meet this year?
He might be coming to Germany possibly.

I think I'm right in saying that the colour of the plastic on the RNSe isn't an exact match to the ventilation controls next to it below. Unless of course you prise the only known perfectly matching ventilation controls from my cold dead fingers or make me an outrageously good offer!!
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Old 21st May 2018, 08:22 AM
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I never found the difference noticeable enough to worry about - after all the matching wood trims on doors and dash are nowhere near the same finish!

I think Kiwi shoe polish or similar does the job to darken it but prob best done with trim off the unit!

Another thing to add - early units will most likely have weak lasers so will only work with OEM discs. I’ve posted how to change the nav transport before - not difficult and will then continue working with copy discs
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I'm not sure that Sergey is coming to the annual meet this year?
He might be coming to Germany possibly.

I think I'm right in saying that the colour of the plastic on the RNSe isn't an exact match to the ventilation controls next to it below. Unless of course you prise the only known perfectly matching ventilation controls from my cold dead fingers or make me an outrageously good offer!!
So how come you've got the only matching set of dash trims known?
And why do you have them? What's the back story?
I can't recall seeing an RNS-E in your 3.7?
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Current:
2002 A8 D2 S8 FE - "Red Dwarf" - Misano Red - Platinum/Silver Interior, PDC, Sat Nav Plus with BOSE and hidden Dension Bluetooth, Multi-changer, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, FE Wheels, Phone Prep with Nokia 6210, Detachable Towbar, Rear Blinds, S8 plate but no other optional extras
1st Place Winner - A8Parts Annual UK Meet 2018
1st Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2018
2nd Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2019
2002 A8L D2 with a factory fitted S8 engine and drivetrain - "Evergreen" - Irish Green Pearl (TBC) - magnolia leather seats with magnolia door cards/door trims, magnolia leather head-lining, extended leather pack 3 (dark green leather dash, upper door cards, steering wheel, lower dash, centre tunnel and rear parcel shelf), factory black external trim (in lieu of chrome), self-levelling suspension, Servotronic, Brembo brakes, "gullideckel" / "man-hole cover" / "pie-plate" 8Jx18 polished 10-hole design wheels typically seen on the W12, Park Distance Control, heated windscreen, multifunction steering wheel, Vavona burl (burr-walnut) wood inserts with cream/magnolia door switch trims, phone preparation to the front with Nokia 6091 phone, phone preparation to the rear with Nokia 6091 phone on the central rear console, third phone preparation in the rear centre console, rear blinds, rear headrest release feature, rear electric heated seats with lumbar and recline function (the rear passenger seat has the facility to move the front passenger seat forward), BOSE audio, Rear Screen Entertainment (RSE) with dual factory fitted Alpine screens, integrated DVD player (under the centre of the rear bench with 4 DVD storage slots) and two remote controls (the controls and inputs for the RSE are in the rear centre console and the screens can operate independently of each other,) factory supplied leather headrest covers to hide the rear screens, rear vanity mirrors (standard A8L), dark green rear wedge footrests with cream piping, front passenger memory seat, dark green floor carpeting and mats – piped in cream, rear slumber pillows for the headrests, integrated fridge with integrated tumblers inside the rear centre headrest bar compartment, solar roof, auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors, factory driver’s seat fire extinguisher, tire pressure monitoring system, first aid kit, 12 V socket in the boot, TRACKER, derestricted – top speed is 155mph plus
2007 A6 Allroad C6 3.0TDI Quattro - Highland Green (Audi Exclusive Colour) - Cream leather interior with Wood, Advanced MMI, Keyless, Bose, Advanced PDC, Sunroof, Heated Memory Seats, Adaptive Xenons, Adaptive Air Suspension, Servotronic

Previous (went to good homes):
2002 A8 D2 2.8 Quattro Sport - "Big Red" - Tornado Red (Special Order) - Twist Interior, PDC, Passenger Memory Seats, Symphony II with BOSE, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, Auto-dimming Mirrors, 20" FE Wheels, Servotronic Steering
2002 A8 D2 2.8 Quattro Sport - Aqua Blue Pearl - Twist Interior, PDC, Sat Nav Plus with BOSE, Multi-changer, Heated Front Seats, Bi-Xenons, Auto-dimming Mirrors, Avus Wheels

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