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10th October 2012, 09:12 AM
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Gearbox Brain in BMW v AUDI
I was out driving at the weekend in my Mum's BMW 330Ci Auto. Now, I have noticed on many other occasions when driving this car that the gearbox ECU is far more intelligent than any Audi Auto I have driven but the damn thing seems to get more intelligent each time I drive it !
The Audi boxes are fairly clever - if you put it in sport mode it will hold the gears briefly when you release the accelerator (so long as you do it quickly enough) and it will learn your style and if you are in the mood to press on it will work with you. However, the BMW box is on another level. Accelerate hard and release and it will not change up until you accelerate again. Accelerate into a corner and it will not change gear while you are cornering. And something I have never experienced in an audi, and it is so obvious in the BMW, is the engine braking. Coming down Sutton Bank (quite steep) on Sunday in no rush at all I started the downhill and gently pressed the brake pedal. The box shifted down into 3rd to assist me to slow down (cool). Then as I continued to lightly press the brake the speed of the car continued to increase so the box dropped down into 2nd (excellent!) and I travelled down the hill hardly needing to use the brakes at all just as you would in a manual car. How clever. Now, annoyingly, the BMW box is ZF and the gearbox controller is Bosch so identical set up to Audi - if the W12 controller had this level of intelligence it would make a real difference; I wonder if I can send it on a training course to BMW.... 
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#2
10th October 2012, 09:21 AM
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OMG... Has Amar hacked your account....
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#3
10th October 2012, 09:24 AM
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Oh god David, youre gonna start off Amar now lol.
The A7 has quite a smart S-tronic box that uses online services to tell exactly where you are and anticipates corners and bends ahead and holds a gear instead of changing up where it normally would but its got a fair way to go to be as clever as that one lol
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#4
10th October 2012, 09:37 AM
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My father was a BMW driver, but he left home one day without any indication at all
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#5
10th October 2012, 09:49 AM
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And I noticed on the D3 I had a while back that it automatically applies the brakes too if cruise is on and you accelerate downhill due to gravity, though I suspect that's quite standard nowadays.
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10th October 2012, 10:39 AM
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Here I am.
They don't call them ''The Ultimate Driving Machine'' for nothin'.
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12th October 2012, 09:29 AM
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12th October 2012, 09:37 AM
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Though having recode my TCU I don't know if that still applies as some of the documentation I've read suggests DSP is now off with what I've done. I'll try it sometime...
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#10
15th October 2012, 02:21 PM
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 hahaand david  you should know better than to post that hear tut tut indeed hahano on a more interesting note i think the TCU Re map really dose make a massive difference if you have a re map
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