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Old 10th July 2019, 07:18 PM
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I had ZZ3 on A6 when I bought it in 2011, they were horrible, hard like plastic and very little grip in dry and no grip at all in wet. Wore out very quickly as well because I was sliding around all the time. It could be that it was down to age and ZZ5 might be a good improvement over ZZ3 but they put me off any Avon tyres.
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Old 11th July 2019, 08:28 AM
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Ended up splashing out on Primacy 4s at the end. Let's see how long they'll las
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Old 6th September 2019, 05:13 PM
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You cannot go wrong with Michelins, Primacy is more comfort orientated compared to Pilot sport and can get a bit more mileage, Primacy HP is the comfort high performance option somewhere in-between.

Michelin used to be king couple of years ago with PS2, Continental Contisport 3 at the same time was not as good, I found CS3 decent allrounders but no match for Michelin. Don't know what happened to CS4, never heard of them, have not had CS5 myself but from what I heard it was a huge disappointment compared to CS3. CS6 seem to be getting better scores than PS4 when new but it remains to be seen how they age and in my experience Michelinds have always been best to retain performance as they age and wear while GoodYear, Dunlop, Pirelli are good when new but drop off the cliff 3-4 years old
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Old 22nd September 2019, 08:50 PM
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It's great to be on Michelin PS4 on all corners on A6 after my little suspension arm misadventure that damaged tyre as well. So I guess it's good I did not change fronts for PS4 earlier as they have been standing at home for about 3 weeks.

I have been a long term user of second hand premium brands and Michelin have always been my favourite, mostly because they do not loose performance over old age like other top brands. They do loose some but less and more gradually.

Pirelli, Dunlop, Good Year are good when new but 3-4 years old performance just drops off the cliff, you start sliding around and as you are sliding they wear out quickly as well so it's good if you buy new and do a lot of miles but not great if you poodle along 2-3k miles per year.

Continental are a bit better with aging, the last I had from Continental was ContiSport 3 which were inferior to PS2 at the time, never heard anything about CS4, CS5 from what I heard was proper sh@t lot worse than CS3 but the latest CS6 is supposed to be top dog even better than PS4, I still sided with PS4 due to my past experience about ageing even if I do a lot more miles these days.

The grip on Three-A P606 was not bad but PS4 feel so much better in every way. I could go on and on about every way how PS4 is better, I can run them at lower pressure, get more grip, more comfort and more mileage. Last set of Michelin I bought second hand was 7-7.5mm, did 20k miles was still able to sell on ebay, CS3 bought about the same, did 18k miles, was nothing left to sell, was probably challenging the legality as they were very worn on sides.

Michelin tyres seem to bee a lot narrower and a bit higher for the same size so I wish I would have gone 235 wide instead of 225 so that's a consideration to make. It's a narrow tyre with very wide grooves and a little contact area, makes it good for resisting aquaplaning and amazingly still manages to get great grip
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