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Old 19th December 2012, 06:34 PM
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Well the box itself was £2,600 with discount from TPS (list price was like £4,200 I'm not sure what the labour time was but I'm in at Audi tomorrow so I'll ask what the official time is on their system. My final bill to remove the old gearbox and supply and fit the new one was £4,100 but that included VAT, a new MAF sensor and fitting plus a new MOT
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Old 19th December 2012, 06:45 PM
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Thanks for that info. At least if you know in advance you're mentally prepared and it's not a shock.
I have good trade contacts so if I need one should get a good discount.
(got a pair of genuine Brembo front discs for my Focus for £25 recently and fitting was a just good bottle of wine!)

Anyway, put it in context. That £4K is only about 1 months first-year depreciation on a new A8.
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Old 19th December 2012, 07:52 PM
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Well the box itself was £2,600 with discount from TPS (list price was like £4,200 I'm not sure what the labour time was but I'm in at Audi tomorrow so I'll ask what the official time is on their system. My final bill to remove the old gearbox and supply and fit the new one was £4,100 but that included VAT, a new MAF sensor and fitting plus a new MOT
Thanks Neil - the first quote from Audi Stockport today was £6k (no really) plus labour, and even with some haggling that's a helluva hole in my pocket at this time of year. Chester Transmissions are quoting £1-2k depending on salvageability (if that's a word) of the various components.

Think I'll think, then think again, before I do anything hasty, at least I'm not reliant on the S8 on a day to day basis. And HP's point about 1 month's depreciation is going to be my "logical" (ahem..) argument to my wife, should I choose to take the plunge.

To be fair, the car has cost me nothing other than fuel (oh, and a solar sunroof..) for the last six months, so that's another plus..
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Chester Transmissions are quoting £1-2k depending on salvageability
Sounds like they take it out and apart themselves and repair/replace internal components.
If they know what they're doing that's a bargain; well worth getting the car shipped to them to work on.
And from their point of view, good business. They do all the work, charging for their time, and just buy in the essential parts.
Win-win.

(I've spent that much just getting the car through an MOT with worn suspension parts and the like, nothing really major just wear and tear)
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Old 19th December 2012, 09:21 PM
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If either of you want to post your gearbox codes I'll have a look in Etka for a current price - although I seem to recall Mr HP you've lost all your labels, unless I'm mixing your car with another?! Age is getting to me ahead of my mid-life crisis next year......
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Sounds like they take it out and apart themselves and repair/replace internal components.







If they know what they're doing that's a bargain; well worth getting the car shipped to them to work on.
And from their point of view, good business. They do all the work, charging for their time, and just buy in the essential parts.
Win-win.


Yes they do as they have done mine
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Yes, Adrian, I've lost all my labels.
I guess there's still one on the box itself though.
My ECU is a 4D0927156BL if that helps....

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Yes they do as they have done mine
For that money I'm almost tempted to get them to strip it as "preventive maintenance" given that it misbehaves - "a stitch in time"
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Think I'll think, then think again, before I do anything hasty, at least I'm not reliant on the S8 on a day to day basis. And HP's point about 1 month's depreciation is going to be my "logical" (ahem..) argument to my wife, should I choose to take the plunge.
When mine went, I was looking at around £2,150 for a replacement reconditioned box. At the time I decided to scrap it, and got £1,400 from a scrapper in Poland. Part of this decision was I also worried about the seriousness of the 'death rattle' from the engine on start-up which I've since discovered was nothing to worry about and is very common. It also had a couple of patches of flaking lacquer on the paintwork.

I then bought the Boxster for 8k ish, have spent around £2k on repairs and servicing in 18 months, and now worth about 5.5k

I wish I'd just spent the money on the box and tidying up and kept the A8.

Get it repaired, you'll regret it if you don't.
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I note that the ZF website talks about a "swing" replacement - A ZF swing unit constitutes a fast, low-cost, and ecological alternative to conventional repairs. ZF remanufactures manual, automated, and automatic transmissions for passenger cars, commercial vehicles, and construction machinery at central remanufacturing locations.

ZF offers the same quality standards for all swing units as you find with volume production transmissions. Additionally, customers benefit from technical further development, as this is integrated into the remanufacturing process. ZF offers a swing unit warranty of up to 2 years.


No idea of costs. but there's plenty of general info on the website.

ZF Services have bases at Crick in Northamptonshire and Nottingham.
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Thanks Neil - the first quote from Audi Stockport today was £6k (no really) plus labour, and even with some haggling that's a helluva hole in my pocket at this time of year.
Sounds like I may have made an OK decision about mine then after all, I just couldn't bear the thought of a recon of JUST the parts that have broken and then thinking the rest of the box is still worn/aged. I really do believe that if its a keeper then its worth shopping to find the best price for a replacement ZF one from TPS and anywhere else (maybe even ZF direct?) and bite the bullet and then have some piece of mind for a few more years
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