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Old 4th April 2018, 05:36 PM
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Default Updating windscreen washer jets (D2)

The long discussion about upgrading D3 jets to either triple of fan variants made me think about the limitations of the D2 windscreen washer jets.
Has anyone ever tried to upgrade/improve them?

Years ago I upgraded my old (long gone) Ford Focus with fan jets which were much better, and thinking about them today I realised the originals were very similar in design to the D2 ones.

A quick rummage later and I found the originals I had replaced (why do I still have them? ) and headed off to the garage to look at my spare scuttle cover.

The Ford jets click straight in to the rectangular mounting holes on the D2 scuttle panel.
They are a bit narrower but the fit is good and the direction/angle looks plausible when I check against my car.

Need to look at the wiring for the heated jets but that's going to be easy to transplant if the connectors are different.

Off now to search online for Fan jets for Ford Focus MkIII (or is it MkII?).
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And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!

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Old 4th April 2018, 06:25 PM
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Off now to search online for Fan jets for Ford Focus MkIII (or is it MkII?).
MkIII. £12.54 from AliExpress for a pair (heated). Not quite as cheap as the D3 ones.
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1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!

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Here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...845916670.html

The D2 wiring is much longer and has a different connector, so when I get them there will be work to do.

I'll also use a meter to check the resistance of both types (Ford and Audi) before committing to wiring in the heaters.
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Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
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e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!

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Here: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/For-...845916670.html

The D2 wiring is much longer and has a different connector, so when I get them there will be work to do.
Well, if Mike orders a few sets and you do the write up there would be some takers - me for one - at the annual meet no doubt (saves on postage )
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I'll probably just plug them in unheated to start with to check fitment/alignment etc.

That all should be pretty simple, though you need to remove the scuttle panel (and wiper arms first) to unclip the jets and swap the pipes over.
The Ford ones have a tiny lug on to align precisely so a corresponding tiny notch may be needed in the scuttle panel.


Probably won't be here for a few weeks; slow boat from China!

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(saves on postage )
Postage is "free", not sure if volume orders get a discount. Max 5 per customer at that price anyway.
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2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (A much rarer model than a D2 S8 by the way!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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Well, if Mike orders a few sets and you do the write up there would be some takers - me for one - at the annual meet no doubt (saves on postage )
Imagines Mike and Andrew standing next to a suitcase on a stand and a yellow three wheeler in the background - Get yer heated washer jets! A score for a pair. Get 'em while they're hot!
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The Ford ones have a tiny lug on to align precisely so a corresponding tiny notch may be needed in the scuttle panel.
Which you can see in this photo, comparing Audi and Ford (with leads) "standard" jets.
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e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
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The D2 wiring is much longer and has a different connector, so when I get them there will be work to do.
And looking at this image (owned by our sponsors and posted on eBay) the connector isn't the standard VAG group type, it's longer and more symmetrical at the end.
Ideally I'd like to buy a couple of tails to graft onto the Ford-style jets, rather than cannibalise the existing. Anyone know the part number for it or it's mate?
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Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. AgateGrey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon, Auto-dim mirror, Leather, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
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And looking at this image (owned by our sponsors and posted on eBay) the connector isn't the standard VAG group type, it's longer and more symmetrical at the end.
Ideally I'd like to buy a couple of tails to graft onto the Ford-style jets, rather than cannibalise the existing. Anyone know the part number for it or it's mate?
If I have read it properly, there isn't a part number for the connector attached to the cable in the photo. It's sold as a complete unit (4d0955988), but the connector at the other end is part number 8e0973202.

BTW The little itty bitty metal clips are part number 4d0955491a.
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