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26th April 2017, 08:22 PM
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Preface lift V Facelift
What is the actual difference in build to a Facelift and pre Facelift 4.2 tdi
I know the engine has a higher factory HP and 50nm more torque but ... why is the engine much more quiet than PF ? I drove one the other day and it's either a better insulated cabin or the engine build and design is actually different in some way. Other differences I'd be interested in is sound system... my friend has a 2016 S8 and mine is 2012 .. his bose sounds like a different system to mine, using the same SD card track as a reference it's almost hard to belive they are even the same system at all ... ?? 
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26th April 2017, 08:27 PM
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Interesting, engine wise I have driven both extensively now and haven't noticed any real difference in engine noise, or in real world "power" with the 4.2 TDIs (the 3l FL made a big difference, suspect some of that maybe gearing?). Maybe worth trying a different pre-facelift for comparison?
On the bose question, would be interesting to compare software versions on the amp?
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#3
26th April 2017, 08:37 PM
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That can be arranged I have VCDS I can check the software version. Power wise I have no reference given I'm on 446bhp with 1050nm and the standard face-lift is around 385 with 850nm
I have to say every time I use the power and torque I smile ... I left a soul destroying look on a jaguar XF owners face today... launch control with that torque and a sports diff is so satisfying and a true Wolf in sheep's clothing
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#4
26th April 2017, 08:39 PM
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Stupid question possibly, but same track on the same sd card?
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#5
26th April 2017, 08:50 PM
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Now part of me wandered, is this to do with the active noise cancellation. .. and is that system in some way different ... I can see the microphones in the headlining on his. Where I do not have this ...
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26th April 2017, 08:57 PM
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It would be interesting to compare with B&O as well.
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#8
26th April 2017, 08:51 PM
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I'm interested in how you get that power, mine is standard, I was maybe a little disappointed when I planted the facelift and it felt just the same to my butt-dyno
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#9
26th April 2017, 08:52 PM
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Was the facelift an S8, active noise cancellation will explain the difference in cabin noise if so
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#10
27th April 2017, 07:36 AM
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The active noise cancellation (standard on the S8 iirc) works remarkably well, I was blown away by the silence of the S8 cabin when I drove one....
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