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Old 30th July 2018, 08:49 AM
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I had a DS7 Crossback on 24 hour test drive Friday/Saturday.

Before you laugh, I needed to do an airport run with luggage, the Mini just ain't up to that job, so it was a handy offer of a free loaner, and something that I might have considered as a daily driver.

Here's my observations, particularly around adaptive cruise control

Likes:

1. Anyone with an SUV will know the problem of the back of your trousers getting dirty when you get out. The doors of this car have been designed to cover the whole of the bottom of the car, sills included, so they are kept mostly clean so your trousers stay clean.

2. Loads of standard kit including adaptive LED headlights (not matrix though), adaptive cruise, massage driver seat, power everything, heated AND ventilated front seats, BLIS, lane assist, night vision wireless phone charging, etc etc. The car could basically drive itself.

3. Love the ventilated seats. I'm always too warm, so these were a big thumbs up from me

4. Focal hifi speakers, whilst not top class, were very decent for the standard of car.

5. Leather (or Alcantara on some models) everywhere, including most of the dashboard

6. I drove the 180PS diesel Ultra Prestige version. The car drives well, honeslty has enough power for the style of car, and suspension rides very comfortably.

Dislikes:

1. The controls for heating, ventilation, navigation, etc are touch screen or voice controlled only. I don't like touch screen anyway, if the car hits a bump, you touch the wrong part of the screen, plus it means taking your eyes off the road for too long in my opinion. But, if you're going to have it, the voice control has to work well, and it just doesn't in this car. Heathrow Terminal 5? No sir. Coombe Abbey? Nope. In a nutshell, it works best with a postcode, which is great when you have the postcode, not so good when you don't. This is the key reason this car is definitely off my shortlist, could not live with this.

2. The adaptive cruise. Now, this is my first experience of ACC, but I found it utterly annoying and watned to turn it off and just have normal cruise.

At town speeds, say up to 40mph, I found the car got far too close to a slowing car in front before slowing down, despite me setting the distance to the longest possible.

At motorway speeds, it was the complete opposite, slowing the car down far too early, despite me changing the distance setting to the shortest possible. I found my self having to change lanes to overtake, without the ACC slowing me down, far far earlier than I would do normally.

So, I'm interested to know why you all like it so much, is the Audi ACC all that different from this?

3. The price is utterly crazy, car I tried is circa £42k.

4. Cannot be specced with 4wd??? Just stupid

Summary:

They're the only real dislikes really. Car can be specced cheaper and without ACC, so could get over those issues, but the whole touch screen infotainment ruined the car for me, and I have a horrible suspicion I'm going to feel the same about the D5.

Other than that, the car is thoroughly decent, especially for a motorway cruiser, but needs to be 10k cheaper than it is in my opinion.
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Old 30th July 2018, 10:29 AM
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I am not the worlds best fan of ACC, it works on a deserted motorway and that is about it. Or Richmond Park trying to keep at 20mph!

You are correct, overtaking starts much further down the road than is necessary. It would be great if it could be toggled to 'normal' CC.

That said, it was only after having read on here I learnt that accelerating rather than braking also pauses the ACC, that really helps when overtaking.

I often see comments on here that cars would not be purchased if they didn't have ACC, if that truly is the case then in my mind there are a number of great cars being overlooked.
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Old 30th July 2018, 11:27 AM
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Sarg, this may be an odd suggestion but have you considered a S90, especially with the D5 AWD? It's only a two litre but with 2 turbos on it and hardly any lag it was surprisingly punchy.

Great kit levels and some cracking leasing available on that at the moment. Like a S90 D5 R-Design with added options of quad zone, bendy LED headlights, keyless entry, start and boot release (powered boot standard) for about £325 per month on 10,000 3+23 lease deal.

Touchscreen and ACC are also standard though!

Just a thought anyway.
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Old 30th July 2018, 11:28 AM
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Yup, S/V90 is on the (long) shortlist, as is XC60/90, would more likely go nearly new on PCP and hope to find one with the Bowers & Wilkins speakers.

Have you got a link for that lease deal though?
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Old 30th July 2018, 11:46 AM
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The ACC on the D5 A8 I took up to the Annual Meet worked very well indeed, much better than I expected - it was intuitive but you still cant stop idiots cutting in to your braking / stopping distance in front and causing the car to brake as a reaction. It also "read" the variable motorways speed limits and adjusted the cars settings until the normal speed limit returned which impressed me hugely, and worked very well right down to 0 mph when following other vehicles.

The Audi touch screens - which I was preparing to hate - are actually really good. after a few days you get used to where everything is just like with buttons and it genuinely didnt feel any different in use to me. The touch screens are very intuitive indeed and give a "click" feel aptic response back through the tip of your finger so that it feels just like you have clicked a button which i quite clever and many of them are "sliders" for things like fan speeds etc and light dimming and so on.
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Old 30th July 2018, 11:54 AM
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Yup, S/V90 is on the (long) shortlist, as is XC60/90, would more likely go nearly new on PCP and hope to find one with the Bowers & Wilkins speakers.

Have you got a link for that lease deal though?
https://www.jetvehiclefinance.co.uk/...Business/false

I think they have a batch to get rid of, looks cheap as under 19% of list over 2 years

I'm not sure if this allowed on here so please remove if not, apologies if so.
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2. The adaptive cruise. Now, this is my first experience of ACC, but I found it utterly annoying and watned to turn it off and just have normal cruise.
Soooo..... Basically, you prefer the old style cruise control where its possible to crash into people then.....

A lot of people on their first outing don't like. Or, don't trust it more like.

Where it comes into its own is a congested, or 50mph stretch of motorway where its boring as heck, and normal cruise is completely useless.

It does take little getting used to. It does things you wouldnt, and vice versa. It does nothing bad. Just different.

You need to be brave and let it deal with a few situations you are very tempted to take control of, and build up some confidence. Then its quite relaxing.

Ive just driven from Harrogate to Bath today. A shocking journey. Roadworks and delays everywhere, but did 95%+ of it on adaptive cruise and I just steered.....
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Soooo..... Basically, you prefer the old style cruise control where its possible to crash into people then.....

A lot of people on their first outing don't like. Or, don't trust it more like.

Where it comes into its own is a congested, or 50mph stretch of motorway where its boring as heck, and normal cruise is completely useless.

It does take little getting used to. It does things you wouldnt, and vice versa. It does nothing bad. Just different.

You need to be brave and let it deal with a few situations you are very tempted to take control of, and build up some confidence. Then its quite relaxing.

Ive just driven from Harrogate to Bath today. A shocking journey. Roadworks and delays everywhere, but did 95%+ of it on adaptive cruise and I just steered.....
Wot he said - except I don't even bother steering either
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I seem to recall there being a thread on here containing details how to check the spec of Audi vehicles, but can't find it in the stickys.

Any pointers anyone? Do I have to phone up Audi customer services, or is there a website I can get the info with just a reg number?
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Old 31st July 2018, 11:41 AM
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The Reg to VIN sites no longer work but I may be able to get the VIN for you if you have a Reg

This was the thread

http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthrea...hlight=decoder
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