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7th April 2013, 11:08 AM
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MOT Time.................
Well it's that time of year and I know I will fail as I have a fair old judder on my drivers side front under braking and had several advisories last year for front and rear control arms.
Off to the MOT station and lo and behold it fails. can you tell from the photo what from? Remember my advisories from last year? Nope it was none of those. More help? You won't get it!  None of my last year advisories figured in this MOT. I got a new advisory for one tyre close to limit which I knew. The failure? Inner CV gaiter passengers side!!!!!!! So why is the suspension on the floor? It goes like this...... THE PLAN Travel to my friends unit in deepest Cornwall, get MOT locally. prepare to sort out brake issue and noisy front wheel bearing and do transmission fluid change and rear output shaft seal replacement. All parts ordered.  Get MOT and fail, plan change 1. Add in inner CV boot.  Get 8 on ramp have a look round underneath spot other inner CV boot fubar missed by MOT! Order second CV boot; commence removal of half shafts. Once lower control arms disconnected find that last years advisories were spot on. 3 of 4 arms inner bushes are toast. order 4 new lower arms. Move on to known brake problem and wheel bearing. O FFS Caliper is stuck on. Get first bolt out to find it has been cross threaded!! never mind helicoil will sort that! Second bolt will not budge. Destructive removal of caliper only solution. new hub carrier ordered from from A8Parts. Immediate dispatch (cheers guys) and 24 hour delivery. Soooooo we need to transfer the top control arms.  Pinch bolt seized. Nooooooo! Destructive removal of top arms destroys top arms. 4 new top arms please! . The 8 is still in bits on the lift awaiting a full set of Febi Bilsteins finest suspension components and a new hub carrier. Rear output seal replaces to find it's been done before and not well! All sorted now and done properly. The transmission fluid wasn't to bad and the magnets were middling from what I have seen. My mechanic friend (ex navy engineer) says they were far better than many he's seen (specializes in old VWs). For those that notice the cut in the hub carrier on the second photo. We had to cut the threaded section of the bolt to get it out. Turned out the lower hole that had the cross thread in was already helicoiled and the top one was complete seized probably due to cross threading and bi-metal corrosion!. I'll update when we are finished. 
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Conan (the Librarian) Watch it if you dare Currently, 2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block. 1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing! 1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard 2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion. 2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse. 2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter. Previously 2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex 1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure. 1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex. 2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on. 1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8. And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
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#2
7th April 2013, 11:59 AM
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From what I can see it is outer CV boot that failed and as far as I know only outers result in MOT failure as grease can get on brakes and affect brake performance/balance.
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#3
7th April 2013, 12:37 PM
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Oh damn, and I was gonna say it failed due to all those front suspension bits dropping off when you raised the car up on the ramp. . . .
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#4
7th April 2013, 03:52 PM
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Conan (the Librarian) Watch it if you dare Currently, 2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block. 1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing! 1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard 2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion. 2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse. 2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter. Previously 2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex 1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure. 1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex. 2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on. 1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8. And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
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#5
7th April 2013, 04:12 PM
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I know its no laughing matter, I remember the pain just to replacing the rear brake caliper & pads. hope you get it fixed.
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8th April 2013, 07:42 AM
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8th April 2013, 06:20 PM
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Confidence is the feeling you have before you know better . . . . Audi A8 D2 3.7 Quattro Sport 1999 FL - Melange 2nd Place Winner - A8-Freunde Annual German Meet 2012 at Edersee 20" x 9" Bentley GTC Wheels with 385mm W12 Front Discs & Bentley Caliper Covers, Front Lowered on Coilovers, Xenons, Combined DRLs and LED Foglights to modified OEM front fog lamp position, Alcantara/Leather, Full Black Alcantara headlining + pillars and blind shelf, Bespoke Flat Bottomed Sports Steering Wheel, Dark Myrtle Wood, Autodim Mirrors, Bose, Blinds, Digital TV, Ski Hatch, Modified rear exhaust section for extra V8 Burble Audi S8 D2 Final Edition 2002, Avus Silver with Red Leather Interior Tiptronic with Sport mode button, Sony rear entertainment package, Bose sound system, Audi Navigation Plus, 20 inch Final Edition alloys, Full Cat Back Stainless Milltek exhaust, giving a great V8 burble Audi A8L D2 4.2 Petrol with LPG - Ebony Black Audi A8L D4 FL 4.0T Petrol twin turbo - Havana Black Audi A2 1.6 FSi Sport - Dolphin Grey with Votex body kit and Red Leather Interior and some other A8's A8L's and Mercs
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9th April 2013, 06:47 AM
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Just thinking about it i replaced all the front arms not too long after getting the 8, with cheep ebay arms. They must have covered around 60k miles and are ready for replacing now. With the state of the roads around my parts i wouldn't think that was too bad really.
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1996 A8 4.2 QS. Bose, Solar roof, um...um... rally sport towbar. Now gone to a new home as the Traders 8. Bright yellow bus o love.
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#10
9th April 2013, 06:55 AM
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I still rate the Meyle HD arms I fitted on the top front of mine - once they'd bedded in the refinement is as good as oe for much less money
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===SOLD===2002 Audi S8 D2 Final Edition (yes, really) in Avus Silver with purple extended leather===SOLD=== 2011 S5 Sportback in Phantom Black with black Super Sports leather, 9x20s, tech pack high, adaptive xenon plus, intelligent key, memory seats pack, sunroof, B&O, Audi Drive Select & quattro Sports Diff, DAB, parking system plus 2015 VW Golf GTI Performance Pack in Carbon Grey with black Vienna leather, tech pack (Discovery Pro nav & Dynaudio), DCC, factory towbar and retrofit RVC
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