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Old 27th June 2016, 03:50 PM
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Hi Guys,

I have a 2008 Quattro Sport 3.0 tdi A8, and recently the gearbox has entered limp mode... four times in total! the first time was a surprise and then the second time it happened again and I found it extremely strange that despite living some 260 miles away and only going here ever five or so week, the second time the car went in to limp mode was eight feet from the last time on the same piece of road, despite doing almost 1,500 miles a month.

The road is the long incline road out of Bath back to Cornwall and both times was at half five in slow moving traffic, probably about 30-40 mph so assume that the roads layout of it's long gradual incline cause my gearbox issues traveling at a slow speed. It's done it twice since and both times was going up hill.

I have read about the various fluid in the gearbox and as far as I'm aware mine has not been opened. The car has been serviced recently but not the gearbox as it wasn't suggested to be done by Audi. I have taken the car to a Specialist in Cornwall that come recommended by a few car clubs with VAG motors. They claim that the gear box needs a complete rebuild due to two faults... the first being 1) Transmission Friction Element / Clutch C and the 2nd) Transmission Friction Element / Clutch E. The gear changes are not as smooth as they were and this was noticed slightly before the first fault so assumed the fluid levels were down.

I've checked for leaks on the gearbox and there are none... so now I'm stuck and not sure which way to go, so looking on hear to you guys for support and options.

Here is the print out I had from the Audi Specialist.

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Regards

Mark
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Registration: 2 WXG (Private plate from 1962

Model: MY 2008 08 3.0TDI Quattro Sport, Black on Black (Transporter Edition) Lowered 60mm on drop link bars. Alloys swapped out to RS6 style 20" x 9.5". It's got full tints on all windows, and has the black leather interior. Remapped by Elite Automotive in Cornwall, giving an increase output to 290bhp/450lbs.

Options: Keyless Entry & Start, Bluetooth Hands Free, Quad Zone Climate, 3 Spoke Sports Tiptronic Multi Function Steering Wheel, Black Leather Comfort Seats, AMI, Drivers & Passenger Electric Memory Seats, Auto Dimming Mirrors, Bi-Xenons.

Future Plans:
Selling my current Audi A8 Quattro Sport and replace is with a newer D4 Audi A8L with the 4.2V8 Twin Turbo setup once again it must be black. I'm looking for one with the options added where it has the rear recliing seats, with heated outers. Bose speakers minimum and B&O's if affordable. Rear and back door sun blinds prefered.

Planned Mods:
Upon the arrival of my A8L D4, I will be once again having the ECU remapped to a performance setting over economy. Rear Tints as dark as can go whilst also tinting the front windows with a medium tint. Once again I will be purchasing lowering links for the air ride suspension and setting it at 55mm lower when in comfort as my desire rideheight over standard. Alloys will be 21" however the one current most likly to be the next car already has a brand new set of 2016 S8Plus wheels on it.

My Business: "The Transporter - Cornwall" find us on Facebook or download the Smart phone application by clicking the link below. http://TheTransporter.appsme.com

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Old 27th June 2016, 03:59 PM
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Hi Mark,

The attachment isn't showing....

How many miles on the car ?

It is quit unusual for the D3 gearbox to go. Not unheard of, but quite rare....

Might be worth considering a 2nd hand box as a cost effective alternative...
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Old 27th June 2016, 04:03 PM
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Hi Mark,

The attachment isn't showing....

How many miles on the car ?

It is quit unusual for the D3 gearbox to go. Not unheard of, but quite rare....

Might be worth considering a 2nd hand box as a cost effective alternative...
Hi Buddy,

I've just noticed the attachment not showing, but yeah I've read many stories of people saying they've had issues, opened the gear box and done an oil change and everything was fine again, but these specialist seem to think a rebuild cost between the quotes I've received so for £2,200 -£3,500 which with mine being the age it is, might not be cost effective. the mileage on the car is 91,000

Regards,

Mark
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Registration: 2 WXG (Private plate from 1962

Model: MY 2008 08 3.0TDI Quattro Sport, Black on Black (Transporter Edition) Lowered 60mm on drop link bars. Alloys swapped out to RS6 style 20" x 9.5". It's got full tints on all windows, and has the black leather interior. Remapped by Elite Automotive in Cornwall, giving an increase output to 290bhp/450lbs.

Options: Keyless Entry & Start, Bluetooth Hands Free, Quad Zone Climate, 3 Spoke Sports Tiptronic Multi Function Steering Wheel, Black Leather Comfort Seats, AMI, Drivers & Passenger Electric Memory Seats, Auto Dimming Mirrors, Bi-Xenons.

Future Plans:
Selling my current Audi A8 Quattro Sport and replace is with a newer D4 Audi A8L with the 4.2V8 Twin Turbo setup once again it must be black. I'm looking for one with the options added where it has the rear recliing seats, with heated outers. Bose speakers minimum and B&O's if affordable. Rear and back door sun blinds prefered.

Planned Mods:
Upon the arrival of my A8L D4, I will be once again having the ECU remapped to a performance setting over economy. Rear Tints as dark as can go whilst also tinting the front windows with a medium tint. Once again I will be purchasing lowering links for the air ride suspension and setting it at 55mm lower when in comfort as my desire rideheight over standard. Alloys will be 21" however the one current most likly to be the next car already has a brand new set of 2016 S8Plus wheels on it.

My Business: "The Transporter - Cornwall" find us on Facebook or download the Smart phone application by clicking the link below. http://TheTransporter.appsme.com
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Old 27th June 2016, 04:41 PM
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How many miles? I have the same model but 2 years older and 250,000 miles and the gearbox is not worn out yet. It's as smooth as butter.
I just changed the fluid for the 3rd time 2 weeks ago, so 2 changes over 249,000 miles but only one of those included the filter and sump removal. I would be tempted to get a scond opinion, usually other stuff goes before the clutches.
What are the fault codes?
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Old 27th June 2016, 08:29 PM
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How many miles? I have the same model but 2 years older and 250,000 miles and the gearbox is not worn out yet. It's as smooth as butter.
I just changed the fluid for the 3rd time 2 weeks ago, so 2 changes over 249,000 miles but only one of those included the filter and sump removal. I would be tempted to get a scond opinion, usually other stuff goes before the clutches.
What are the fault codes?
Hi mate,

I did post up the image of the report but for some reason it doesn't want to display.

anyway...

009986 - Transmission Friction Element / Clutch C
P2702 - 000 - Apply Time Implausible - Intermittent
Freeze Frame
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset Counter: 255
Mileage: 14847 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.06.01
Time: 16:49:04

Freeze Frame
RPM: 1824 /Min
RPM: 1792 /min
RPM: 2272 /min
(no units): 70.0
(no units) 104.0
Temperature: 85.0 oc
T.B. Angle: 40.8 o

009988 - Transmissions Friction Element / Clutch E
P2704 - 000 - Apply Time Implausible - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110000
Fault Frequency: 2
Reset Counter: 255
Mileage: 149213
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2016.06.07
Time: 16:02:56

Regards

Mark.
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Registration: 2 WXG (Private plate from 1962

Model: MY 2008 08 3.0TDI Quattro Sport, Black on Black (Transporter Edition) Lowered 60mm on drop link bars. Alloys swapped out to RS6 style 20" x 9.5". It's got full tints on all windows, and has the black leather interior. Remapped by Elite Automotive in Cornwall, giving an increase output to 290bhp/450lbs.

Options: Keyless Entry & Start, Bluetooth Hands Free, Quad Zone Climate, 3 Spoke Sports Tiptronic Multi Function Steering Wheel, Black Leather Comfort Seats, AMI, Drivers & Passenger Electric Memory Seats, Auto Dimming Mirrors, Bi-Xenons.

Future Plans:
Selling my current Audi A8 Quattro Sport and replace is with a newer D4 Audi A8L with the 4.2V8 Twin Turbo setup once again it must be black. I'm looking for one with the options added where it has the rear recliing seats, with heated outers. Bose speakers minimum and B&O's if affordable. Rear and back door sun blinds prefered.

Planned Mods:
Upon the arrival of my A8L D4, I will be once again having the ECU remapped to a performance setting over economy. Rear Tints as dark as can go whilst also tinting the front windows with a medium tint. Once again I will be purchasing lowering links for the air ride suspension and setting it at 55mm lower when in comfort as my desire rideheight over standard. Alloys will be 21" however the one current most likly to be the next car already has a brand new set of 2016 S8Plus wheels on it.

My Business: "The Transporter - Cornwall" find us on Facebook or download the Smart phone application by clicking the link below. http://TheTransporter.appsme.com
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Old 28th June 2016, 09:33 AM
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Hi,

Can anyone make any sense of the fault codes that I've posted? Thanks in advance.

Regards,

Mark.
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Registration: 2 WXG (Private plate from 1962

Model: MY 2008 08 3.0TDI Quattro Sport, Black on Black (Transporter Edition) Lowered 60mm on drop link bars. Alloys swapped out to RS6 style 20" x 9.5". It's got full tints on all windows, and has the black leather interior. Remapped by Elite Automotive in Cornwall, giving an increase output to 290bhp/450lbs.

Options: Keyless Entry & Start, Bluetooth Hands Free, Quad Zone Climate, 3 Spoke Sports Tiptronic Multi Function Steering Wheel, Black Leather Comfort Seats, AMI, Drivers & Passenger Electric Memory Seats, Auto Dimming Mirrors, Bi-Xenons.

Future Plans:
Selling my current Audi A8 Quattro Sport and replace is with a newer D4 Audi A8L with the 4.2V8 Twin Turbo setup once again it must be black. I'm looking for one with the options added where it has the rear recliing seats, with heated outers. Bose speakers minimum and B&O's if affordable. Rear and back door sun blinds prefered.

Planned Mods:
Upon the arrival of my A8L D4, I will be once again having the ECU remapped to a performance setting over economy. Rear Tints as dark as can go whilst also tinting the front windows with a medium tint. Once again I will be purchasing lowering links for the air ride suspension and setting it at 55mm lower when in comfort as my desire rideheight over standard. Alloys will be 21" however the one current most likly to be the next car already has a brand new set of 2016 S8Plus wheels on it.

My Business: "The Transporter - Cornwall" find us on Facebook or download the Smart phone application by clicking the link below. http://TheTransporter.appsme.com
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