Unusual Skoda

[Audidothat]

Spotted a Skoda Superb TSI yesterday, it was the quad exhaust that caught my eye.

I must admit my knowledge of the Skoda model range is somewhat lacking but imagined it must have a VAG V6, V8 or W8 in it. After google research it turns out it is a 260bhp 3.6 V6, (maybe 4x4 as well) à la Passat 4motion.
Quite a rare car i’d imagine.

[tonupkid]

Interesting Skoda.
VW make a 2 litre petrol Passat that has quad exhausts. I'm trusting the service guy on the 2L bit. Strikes me it'd be more logically the V6, but in the absence of any details by the car in the VW showroom ........
Main dealers are the most astonishingly lazy sales people. You get more info on a packet of crisps than on a car being sold for tens of thousands of £'s.

[MikkiJayne]

Main dealers are the most astonishingly lazy sales people. You get more info on a packet of crisps than on a car being sold for tens of thousands of £'s.

I recall back in the day being told that there was a VR6 Lupo coming from the factory.
Oh, you mean the '3 litre Lupo'?
Yeah thats it.
You mean the one with the 3 cylinder diesel engine that uses 3 litres of fuel per 100Km? :ROFL:

The Golf R is a 2.0 Turbo I think, and that has 4 tailpipes. Passat R perhaps, with the same engine?

[moltuae]

Skodas have come a long way since I was kid. They were down there with Ladas back in the day and were the butt of many jokes (in fact wasn't there a joke that compared a twin-exhaust Skoda to a wheelbarrow?).

Despite the fact they are now VAG cars, I still find it difficult to see past that badge. I think they should've dropped the Skoda name a long time ago, but then I suppose there are a lot of younger drivers now who have never known them as manufacturer of cheap and nasty cars.

[tintin]

Great cars, Skodas: if I was to buy another car, then I'd definitely buy a Skoda over an Audi these days: they're just as good, but less half the price, and without all the unnecessary Audi bling.

The Superb feels just like my S8 inside, and a lovely place to be - like this one for £8k +++

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201804155570161?aggregatedTrim=Elegance&price-from=500&sort=sponsored&model=SUPERB&body-type=Estate&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&make=SKODA&postcode=wa144bs&radius=1500&price-to=10000&advertising-location=at_cars&fuel-type=Petrol&page=1

[moltuae]

I'm sure they are great cars (now) and, under the skin, they're no doubt as good as their VW counterparts .... but they're just so dull and ugly. And those names!? .... Superb, Fab(-ia), Octavia (ugh, what were they thinking?) ... and then there was that one called Fellatio (or something like that).

[tintin]

I'm sure they are great cars (now) and, under the skin, they're no doubt as good as their VW counterparts .... but they're just so dull and ugly. And those names!? .... Superb, Fab(-ia), Octavia (ugh, what were they thinking?) ... and then there was that one called Fellatio (or something like that).

Ah, but you forgot the Yeti and the Roomster ;)(https://www.autoevolution.com/cars/skoda-roomster-2006.html#agal_11), both genuinely interesting and unusual cars. My worry is that they're slowing become little more than rebadged VWs, and costing more at the same time - e.g. the new Karoq and Kodiaq, neither of which I find very interesting

[IT]

Yes, rare Skoda indeedy. Stacks up alongside the r36 Passat and other rarities.

The Skoda brand is intentionally, and almost painfully separated from its sibling brands.

courtesy car at audi, includes insurance, and they don’t really care about fuel, but it will have some.

At vw, it’s insured, and likely on vapour.

At Skoda, you have to insure it yourself, fuel it yourself, and then wash your car after the service yourself.

No. Really.

Audi includes European wide breakdown cover, and a warning triangle. Vw, has UK wide breakdown and triangles are optional.

Etc etc.

You can buy a. Skoda, and it’s cheaper, but they do actually chip away at things. The plastics in Skoda are cheaper, intentionally. They will more easily mark than vw, whose plastics are inferior to Audi.

And given that we seem to be moving all too rapidly to a lease everything mentality when it comes to cars, and noting the higher residuals of the premium Audi, the Skoda likely makes even less sense these days .....:rolleyes:

[tintin]

Yes, rare Skoda indeedy. Stacks up alongside the r36 Passat and other rarities.

The Skoda brand is intentionally, and almost painfully separated from its sibling brands.
courtesy car at audi, includes insurance, and they don’t really care about fuel, but it will have some.
At vw, it’s insured, and likely on vapour.
At Skoda, you have to insure it yourself, fuel it yourself, and then wash your car after the service yourself.
No. Really.
Audi includes European wide breakdown cover, and a warning triangle. Vw, has UK wide breakdown and triangles are optional.
Etc etc.
You can buy a. Skoda, and it’s cheaper, but they do actually chip away at things. The plastics in Skoda are cheaper, intentionally. They will more easily mark than vw, whose plastics are inferior to Audi.
And given that we seem to be moving all too rapidly to a lease everything mentality when it comes to cars, and noting the higher residuals of the premium Audi, the Skoda likely makes even less sense these days .....:rolleyes:

...and that's kind of my point Ian: nearly all of the things that you've mentioned are incidentals (for me, anyway... ;)): I don't expect to have to pay 50%+ more for a car brand just because they wash it after a service, fill up a courtesy car with fuel, give me a warning triangle, have a shinier showroom, offer me a latte/expresso instead of a Klix coffee etc.

IMHO, these things are just an excuse to get punters in this country to pay (a lot!) more for the perception of brand quality - and I'd argue that car buyers in the UK are more "image" and brand conscious than most other western countries (where the "premium" premium is less too! :D). I personally couldn't tell the difference between the leather/plastic in the last Superb that I sat in and my S8, and I'd rate my D2 interior quality against anything, really.

But these things are all down to perception and personal taste - if we all thought the same, then marketing people wouldn't have a job, and the world would be a less interesting place :roll eyes:

..and PS: your residuals logic is reversed if you buy second hand and pay cash...

[IT]

I personally couldn't tell the difference between the leather/plastic in the last Superb that I sat in and my S8



Oooof. I’m struggling to let that one go.... ;-)...... especially, as you have a Tesla, which is the definition of unluxurious interior trimmings slapped together as an afterthought.... forgiven _almost_ entirely for it’s it technical (and pioneering) advances in automotive technology...... but still, this is a premium Audi forum right? ;-)

[tintin]

Oooof. I’m struggling to let that one go.... ;-)...... especially, as you have a Tesla, which is the definition of unluxurious interior trimmings slapped together as an afterthought.... forgiven _almost_ entirely for it’s it technical (and pioneering) advances in automotive technology...... but still, this is a premium Audi forum right? ;-)

Thought you might bite on that one ;). Skoda interiors are ahead of Tesla Model S ones, I'll give you that one...and don't forget my other car's a Fiat +++

[briang9]

Had a couple of Octavia vRS estates as company cars and they were pretty good, not of the same build quality as my D2, but certainly not that much worse than my RS6, which again falls some way short in quaility of materials etc compared to the D2. The D2 seems to be the last Audi where a lot of the decisions on how they were designed and built were by engineers and not accountants.+++

Oh and as a Scot I was very proud when Top Gear described Skodas as "Volkswagens for cheapskates":ROFL:

[briang9]

Spotted a Skoda Superb TSI yesterday, it was the quad exhaust that caught my eye.

I must admit my knowledge of the Skoda model range is somewhat lacking but imagined it must have a VAG V6, V8 or W8 in it. After google research it turns out it is a 260bhp 3.6 V6, (maybe 4x4 as well) à la Passat 4motion.
Quite a rare car i’d imagine.

Though nice that particular one is not a V6 it seems:-(

https://totalcarcheck.co.uk/FreeCheck?regno=wj62tzt

though they did do one+++

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201803064298475?radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&postcode=g38sj&sort=sponsored&minimum-badge-engine-size=2.6&make=SKODA&advertising-location=at_cars&model=SUPERB&page=1


which does seem to have switchgear etc which may appear familiar to owners of RS6s of similar vintage;)

[27litres]

Octavia (ugh, what were they thinking?) ...
Maybe they thought they'd sell 8 of them? :D

pay (a lot!) more for the perception of brand quality - and I'd argue that car buyers in the UK are more "image" and brand conscious than most other western countries (where the "premium" premium is less too! :D)
You haven't been down here recently!
The Aussie $ is buying about 55p at present.
My S8's were around $220,000 new, so that's £121,000!
At the roughly 60p value of the dollar at the time that's £132,000...
What were they there - £70,000odd?

[mattylondon]

My Dad moved from Audi to Skoda many years ago. He's on his 4th now which is a '17 Octavia and you can still notice the difference in quality of materials used. His previous was the Superb and it was only slightly smaller than the D3. I don't know if the boot is standard but it was double hinged to open like a saloon or hatch.

https://youtu.be/KJZ5IgzI6xo?t=19s

Oh, just to add the Superb was probably one of the easiest cars to replace a headlight bulb as half the back could be removed for access +++

[Conquistador]

I don't know if the boot is standard but it was double hinged to open like a saloon or hatch.

https://youtu.be/KJZ5IgzI6xo?t=19s

That's cool.

And there is something cool about the 'sleeper' VAG cars. Passat W8, the old Vento VR6, Passat/Passat CC R36, the above Skoda and even an Audi S4/S6 and D2 S8. They have an air of 'you don't know unless you know'.

[Davey Blueeyes]

Maybe they thought they'd sell 8 of them? :D


You haven't been down here recently!
The Aussie $ is buying about 55p at present.
My S8's were around $220,000 new, so that's £121,000!
At the roughly 60p value of the dollar at the time that's £132,000...
What were they there - £70,000odd?

I believe a FE S8 in 2002 was £59,740 new but I think the Avus Silver was a bit more money than the other colours?! I am sure Ian will come along and put us straight!

[HPsauce]

I priced up my PF (1998) S8 from the 1998 price list (which I still have) and that was about £70K new, though it did have a "few" options.

[tintin]

I priced up my PF (1998) S8 from the 1998 price list (which I still have) and that was about £70K new, though it did have a "few" options.

I think that's closer to the mark when new than £59k, though I don't have any data to hand to confirm that...

[HPsauce]

Remember there were a lot of changes around that time to the taxation of new cars, though I can't recall exactly when, but it largely meant reductions.

Edit: Just found the price list, mine was £72,254.22 "On The Road" Price including VAT at 17.5% (and delivery/tax etc. at £645.)

[Ameiseuk]

You lot need to go to the Boucher Road in Belfast - car showroom city.

The BMW showroom sits directly opposite the Skoda showroom.
I (unfortunately) have to frequent the Skoda showroom as it is also the Infiniti service department.

Skoda showroom empty apart from a few older (ahem) people shuffling their way around a Yeti or complaining to the service department that their motability special Fabia has 'this little light on the dash that looks like an engine'

BMW showroom opposite is packed with people enjoying a coffee/the view or possibly looking at the new M5 on a rotating pedestal in the middle of the showroom
(I only know this as I was there on Friday selling them a forklift so they could stack up all the cages of customers 'winter tyres' in the store)

....or maybe everyone is in the BMW showroom waiting on their cars being fixed?