the 8 is great in the snow and ice, you really dont notice it much at all, first time for me i couldnt understand why all around me were driving so slowly, seemed to slow even for the conditions, i was driving normally as if it wasnt there at all, then realised it was the 4 wheel drive, specially compared to the 3 series bmw which arent that great even when you turn the asp off.

I started collecting bits for it, wanted to do it really cheaply which would be possible if a bonnet could have been found, that bonnet would have decided which bumper would be required, too late now though.

At first i thought the D4 had less character than previous models but ive come round to it, and with the reveiws from Singh on how great it was and the way the prices are going at the moment its an option for me now

haha yeh i get what you mean. yeh the m3 was rubbish in the rain let alone sno plus it was a convertible so a no no for the roof.

you mentioned about a bonnet deciding about which bumper... what do you mean?

dont get me wrong the bmw 7series look very beastly but tbh im not going to be sitting on the outside of my car, im going to be inside and for that its hats off to audi.

theres different bonnets for the different years facelifts

ha ha - ive always been into beamers and i really wanted a 7 series too, the interior of the latest shape is quite nice but was out of my price range at the time, but the one before, my god it reminds me of tutankamans tomb, the D3s interior is spectacular in a refined uncluttered way. and so well put together

well i have a 2004 the same shape as yours, and there is only one facelift after ours i believe that it starts in 2005/2006 to . all the facelift bonnets are the after our shape no difference. i was speaking to lance at audi leeds who dealt with all my parts, and its all the same bonnets for facelift, i had given him a reg plate of a 2007 57 for the bonnet and 2008 08 s8 for grills.

i believe in our shape that the w12 differs slight with the bonnet, but on facelift all the bonnets are the same to go with the facelift bumper. only difference is the grill style, as in the chrome lasyout, s8 like mine have the chrome strips verticall, w12 are horizontol.

haha well my first bmw was an m3 for this summer and tbh i hate all other bmw's there not upto standard unless your buying a m3 or m5 which are fully loaded top of the range. i wanted to get a 7 series when i was looking, but i found this instead, the 7 series are massive but interior let me down a lot, thats why i choose the a8, plus the a8 i could facelift it, so did my reasearch before i bought it, so i got the looks the luxry and the performance all in one no other make could compare. tbh i just love my vw' and audis.

i want a lambo for the summer :)

theres the 2006 then the 2008, slightly different bumpers i thought the bonnets were also slightly different

the W12 came with the single grill all along, which came in on the later 2005 cars, mines early,

good job in doing the homework , i didnt do nearly enough, didnt realise how many options there were, i wont make that mistake with the d4

i want a ferrari california for the summer but it seems unlikely unless theres a lottery win :)

oh ok did not know that. what are the differences? and where did you find this out from?

with the w12 i was just reading so dont quote me on that lol.

well i looked at it this way, i wanted a nice realiable car but with good looks, so looked around and the audi was the only one thats like mechano lol. thats why i love VAG cars, minis polos golf ive done soo much with them lol. and there soo easy to work with.

well the d4 only option you have is the s8 bumper and grill. so get looking now lol.

yeh i love the 599 only ferrari that would have my money tbh lol

Yes W12 came with a single grill from 2004 to 2010 when they stopped and the D4 was born +++

i do like the S8 front end and if an S8 front end came up in black i would have it and keep the W12 grill in a S8 bumper just to add that edge and extra lines of the S8 bumper
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if only you could covert to this aye +++

I thought you had moved to a D4 now Guy, was that just a loaner

i bet you could, all you need is a hammer and a grinder lol

and yeh thats why i got the s8 grill because of the linage thing lol