I was talking very broadly about the private sale of second hand goods....

I don't know what part you got, from whom, or what was wrong with it, or what you did to rectify it, and I'm quite happy for it to stay that way +++

Sounds like overall you probably got it going at less than the cost of brand new so hopefully you've had some sort of win, even if not as big as first hoped....

Roberto With all due respect you warped 3 sets of 3.0L TDI discs and pads on your D3. You openly admitted this to me and in fact said you had been to Audi To complain about this many times. you there for decided some W12 brakes may be un-Warpable i sold them to you for £350 way cheaper than what they are worth i drove 380 miles to come and assist you fitting them i painted them to the colour you wanted, Delivered them. And all for the cost of £350 spent time fitting them.I never charged you for delivery or my time installing them on my weekend off from work. You then Warped them!

I have sold 3 sets of W12 brakes. I have fitted them to Neil. Architex car. and My LWB D3 and a couple of others and i have never encountered a problem with them. Nor had negative comments

Now either you have an underlying fault with your ABS that may or may not be causing this. or you are continuing to brake from the 130mph + speeds that you mentioned continually thus causing even the best brakes to warp eventually.

I am sorry you feel i have Done you out of pocket. I am sorry i tried to help you with this. and finally i am disappointed that you felt the need to make this public given you were Quite happy to call me constantly for my advice but yet felt it unnecessary to call me and see if i could help you with your issue.
I recommend some Ceramic Brakes for your Driving style Roberto!

Now may I also ask the Forum members the same Question Now that they have the Relevant information to make Judgment ?

Do you think this is Fair on me after all I have done is try to help you ?
May I also ask for any feedback from anyone else who has had me Fit brakes or supply them or in fact anyone who has ever had issues with warping on W12 brakes ?

Again My apologies.

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And hear is said brakes after i fitted them with new discs and new pads .. i dont understand how they could warp

Based on your side of the issue daviesbike, and from what you have said, I think it is rather unfair on you that Roberto made this issue public to all, especially having been in communication with you previously, prior to this thread.

I am not familiar with Roberto or his driving style, so can't comment on that as a source of the problem, but the three sets of warped discs does raise some concern. Either this is a known problem with them (not that I have read anywhere), or as you say, there could be serious issues with the ABS unit (and associated units) in Roberto's car. The fact that another set of discs (W12 ones) have now gone the same way would seem to imply such a problem.

In fairness, Roberto didn't make the specifics public..... It seems the seller has ?

I genuinely didn't know what he'd bought, and presumed the only person he'd be rattling directly would be the seller. I was reasonably happy to let the thread run like that as it was interesting banter on the subject of private sales.

But now we have two sides of an argument brewing and I've no plans to be sat in the middle.

I'm going to close this thread as I think enough has been said publically and its really a private matter between buyer and seller.

If either party desire, I'm happy to delete/retract posts if desired.

W12 brakes
 

seeing as my other post has been locked before i can defend myself i have written this.

i just want people to know the truth and clarify what happened with my W12 brake upgrade.
first of all YES i warped 3 sets of standard brakes on my 3.0 tdi on the track not on the road.
so im on the search for an upgrade.
i only bought the W12 calipers from guy.(£350 bargain)
i bought new W12 discs and pads myself.(£200)
guy painted the calipers red and was coming up my way and volunteered to help me fit them.
brilliant i thought.
less than 15 miles the red paint burned brown.(and felt red hot to the touch)
also when i braked they felt warped.
so i had the new W12 discs and pads exchanged by the suppliers.(thinking they were faulty)
15 miles again im in the same situation.
eventually after inspection from a brake expert he found the calipers had perished slider rubbers and worn slider pins.
this was causing the calipers to float about and causing the new discs to twist giving the sensation of warped discs.
hence my faulty goods thread.

so new pins and rubbers were fitted.
the W12 brake set up is now perfect.
nothing wrong with my ABS.
so if you are fitting 2nd hand calipers check and change the rubbers and slider pins. £107
as these are the only thing holding the calipers on apart from a spring clip.

i have done 400 miles so far and am now very happy with the W12 brakes. (infact they are now stunningly good)

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